Another season of abject failure and with a third season of no playoffs, who should be shown the door at Odsal as we look to rebuild for next year?

Every back except Kearney. Shed loads of deadwood still.

Look out in the next couple of days for a special feature from my site on the 2012 Bulls, and the makeup of it. But re: the above poster, I'd certainly be retaining Royston and Raynor.

I wouldnt be fussed about getting rid of any of our backs. Raynor and royston are alright but won't get you in the real playoff mix.

St Hilaire needs to leave or be shown the door.

LSH to another club if they will have him.

It's now or never for the club to act and get rid of the players that have been constantly underperforming week in week out because I really do fear that even with a cheap season ticket deal the supporters will leave and won't be back.

Huddersfield and Warrington up next

We can not keep rebuilding a squad every season, like we have done for the past 3 or 4 years. On the other hand we do have some dead wood in the team. I feel we need a couple of good coaches to go alongside Potter and Cummins, a Forshaw/Naylor/Anderson type coach. If we are to make any signings they have to be of quality, not has beens and not players who are injured consistantly.

Nail on the head. All this talk about replacing half the team is laughable. We've done this for the past 3 seasons. Same result. The entire backroom staff need to go. Someone who prided himself on defence, Forshaw or a Daniel Gartner. Lee Si Hilaire isn't exactly the fountain of RL defence.

The juniors are getting embarrssed and this HAS to be addressed. Whether fans like it or not, we aren't going get 13+ players who are better than the ones we have because nobody wants to join us. Get a decent backroom staff in and coach them properly and it should take care of itself.

Weve gotta sign some absolute quality, not players coming back from injury or released from other clubs, not players 'with a point to prove' as some like to call it. We need to get our noses into strong players and make them very good offers, because taking chances hasnt worked for 5 years and it will not work next year either.

I agree that keeping the continuity of the side is vital but as Mick says above we need those quality players in the side and remember that Potter was promised the full cap to spend.

Lowes and McDermott should be available by the end of the week.

I think it'll be dear Brian (110) before that happens

Yeah lets blame the assistant again that worked last time.

Oh not that old chestnut, we have alledgedly had the full salary cap to spend for years now...

Langley and Lynch need to to be moved on.

Somehow I dont think a coach would choose not to spend every penny available to him. Of course he was given the full cap to spend, yeah sure.

Ooooooh, contraversial.

Continuity works when a team is doing well and helps sustain that. It just doesn't work with dross. The idea this team would do better with a few changes is way off the mark unless these changes are seriously good players and in right positions.

I don't even expect a clear out, mainly because a lot are still under contract and i don't think many other clubs will be chasing them.

How when like platt and Sykes they all have 1-2 years left on contracts?

We need :

a) a new captain

b) to spend the full salary cap

c) to add some real quality.

d) move on any players who would not get in a top 8 side. For me Raynor & Royston deserve new contracts. Royston as back up and Raynor could have Ah Vans shirt if we can't find better. Earlier on I would have given Ah Van one too but not now. Both halfback positions are still an issue, Jeffries can fill one but he isn't the best and we are crying out for some quality there.

I heard an old bloke on the terrace saying Noble wants to come back. If that were true, and we could do it for a realistic amount of money then I would bite his bloody hand off atm.

110% agree. Langley can't string 2 games together and is relatively ineffective at the best of times. Lynch's solid as a rock workhorse performances have become sluggish and much less solid. Of our props today (all 5 of them) I'd keep Burgess and Koppy. Hargreaves offers nothing and Scruton doesn't do enough and see above for Lynch. Whitehead makes a better centre than 2nd rower and Addy is utterly ineffective at hooker. It's all well and good slating the halves but no good half backs play behind a beaten pack. This is the 2nd week running that we have been well beaten in the pack, the area that, 7 years ago, was where we dominated in the league.

A clearout needs to start at the top and make its way down so it would be wonderful to see the end of the likes of Hood, LSH, Winston Medley and, of course, teflon Duffy.

On a playing side there is almost too many to mention, but seeing the end of Sykes, Platt, Ah Van, Langley, Lynch, Sibbitt, Crookes, Raynor and Walker for starters would hardly be disasterous.

Love these threads. Get rid of everyone but don't actually come up with any suggestions as to who they could be replaced with. Yeah, that's the attitude that'll turn everything around at Odsal.

What is it with some sections of the Bradford support that seem to think that you cannot make a point without having a ready made list of replacements??

It is quite obvious that some people are stealing a living at the club at the moment and need to be moved on as they contribute absolutely sod all.