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| Is the fine from the RFL for not fielding a team in a match?
Just wondered if it's viable for the 11000 season ticket holders to foot the bill for it the next time the RFL choose Ganson to ref one of our matches?
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| I've never said this before and i don't expect to say it again but I thought Ganson did a good job today
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| Do referees ever own up when they are wrong and say sorry? I know in my job I make mistakes, as I suspect do most people, but I will put my hand up and apologise when I have.
Do referees?
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| Ganson did.
After one of his numerous wrong calls against the Bulls - Millennium Tragic when he allowed the Tansey "try" without going to the screen, having listened illegally to the Aussie twerp in his ear telling him wrongly to award a penalty against us seconds before.
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| Quote ="debaser"Do referees ever own up when they are wrong and say sorry? I know in my job I make mistakes, as I suspect do most people, but I will put my hand up and apologise when I have.
Do referees?'"
Yes they probably do when Cummings pulls them in on the Tuesday morning at Leeds Met University. Only thing is they probably laugh about it afterwards and then look forward next week. As they are clearly free from any sort of responsiblities in their job.
If you had an important engagement and you failed to turn up for work because you were arrested the night before after hitting the booze how would that go down at work? Even if crminal charges were never involved.
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| Quote ="AJW"I've never said this before and i don't expect to say it again but I thought Ganson did a good job today'"
I've said it before but I'm not after today.
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| The problem with the refs in SL is that there only, I think, eight of them.
Given that there are seven games every weekend they are going to get a game whether they were useless the week before or not.
In an ideal world, there would be ten or even twelve SL quality referees. Then the ones that had a bad game could be .... uhm.... 'rested' the next week. That would focus the mind a bit.....
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"I've said it before but I'm not after today.'"
I thought he had a good game tbh, he was tough with Wigan about holding down - they got pinged 4-5 times for it and I think that really messed up their game plan and was the reason in the end for the sinbinning.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"Is the fine from the RFL for not fielding a team in a match?
Just wondered if it's viable for the 11000 season ticket holders to foot the bill for it the next time the RFL choose Ganson to ref one of our matches?'"
you have 11,000 fans!!!!!! Hardly obvious today!!
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| I didn't think he did too badly. Disappointed that none of the officials spotted the blatant forward pass for Richards try though.
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I didn't think he did too badly. Disappointed that none of the officials spotted the blatant forward pass for Richards try though.'"
same could be said for the ah van try where he reached about three yard forward to catch it or his other try where he grounded the ball short !!!!! but thats rugby league eh....it tends to balance out !!!
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| Quote ="Bully_Boxer"I didn't think he did too badly. Disappointed that none of the officials spotted the blatant forward pass for Richards try though.'"
same could be said for the ah van try where he reached about three yard forward to catch it or his other try where he grounded the ball short !!!!! but thats rugby league eh....it tends to balance out !!!
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| Quote ="Wigan Peer"you have 11,000 fans!!!!!! Hardly obvious today!!'"
That's true but apparantly you're Champions and the 4 point scoreline against Superleague's lowest placed club without a points deduction with 12 men suggested otherwise.
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| Quote ="lothlorian"same could be said for the ah van try where he reached about three yard forward to catch it or his other try where he grounded the ball short !!!!! but thats rugby league eh....it tends to balance out !!!'"
The sending off that wasn't tipped the scales firmly in your favour. As you say it evens itself out so I look forward to that match.
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"The sending off that wasn't tipped the scales firmly in your favour. As you say it evens itself out so I look forward to that match.'"
It will be a long wait....
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| Quote ="Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza"The sending off that wasn't tipped the scales firmly in your favour. As you say it evens itself out so I look forward to that match.'"
im not going to argue about the intent as only raynor knows but ill look at the facts. the wigan player was struck in the head and unconcious before he hit the the floor. the red card was the right call. Not saying he deserves a big ban but the card had to be given. It was a bad one even it was just reckless. Yes you had 12 men but the disruption of losing sam, and losing pat on the wing to full back hindered us more then we gained especially wit the wind which made it difficult to make use of the numeric advantage out wide.
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| How do we know he was out before he hit the floor? Did I miss that bit?
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| Quote ="lothlorian"im not going to argue about the intent as only raynor knows but ill look at the facts. the wigan player was struck in the head and unconcious before he hit the the floor. the red card was the right call. Not saying he deserves a big ban but the card had to be given. It was a bad one even it was just reckless. Yes you had 12 men but the disruption of losing sam, and losing pat on the wing to full back hindered us more then we gained especially wit the wind which made it difficult to make use of the numeric advantage out wide.'"
Don`t agree a yellow card would have been enough. i`ve watched it a couple of time, does not warrant a red card. Talking of cards a couple of your players should have visited the bin. ie. o`louglin - head high tackles and Lima should have walked. S. Tomkins needs to stop being pathetic he looked alright when i saw him laughing and joking near the Tunnel in the 2nd half can`t of have been much of a bad tackle. Talented player but his cheating lets him down, hope he doesn`t do that against the Aussies he will get smashed big time.
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| Quote ="clared"Don`t agree a yellow card would have been enough. i`ve watched it a couple of time, does not warrant a red card. Talking of cards a couple of your players should have visited the bin. ie. o`louglin - head high tackles and Lima should have walked. S. Tomkins needs to stop being pathetic he looked alright when i saw him laughing and joking near the Tunnel in the 2nd half can`t of have been much of a bad tackle. Talented player but his cheating lets him down, hope he doesn`t do that against the Aussies he will get smashed big time.'"
A punch to the players head (intentional or otherwise) in the act of scoring a try should have resulted in a red card and an eight point try ... count yourselves lucky!
The disciplinary meeting will view an unprovoked attack to a players head, which knocks him out ... lets see how they interpret that! I only hope RL for once has the guts to address the issue of nobodies making calculated attacks on key players.
This Wigan team is playing well below par and is not in my opinion good enough to progress to Wembley or Old Trafford (on current form) but the facts speak for themselves ... Bradford came second today!
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"How do we know he was out before he hit the floor? Did I miss that bit?'"
He was clearly "out cold"before he hit the deck in my opinion.
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| i found out last night that the team and many other teams in sl are coached to punch the ball out of the attackers hand in that one on one scenario to try and stop them scoring.
if this is the case that must be the only reason why raynor had his fist clenched and not open to try and tackle the player but raynor obviuusly miss timed the attempt.
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| Quote ="bulls2010"i found out last night that the team and many other teams in sl are coached to punch the ball out of the attackers hand in that one on one scenario to try and stop them scoring.
if this is the case that must be the only reason why raynor had his fist clenched and not open to try and tackle the player but raynor obviuusly miss timed the attempt.'"
You found out? Did you mean you heard nobby saying it after the game lol!
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| to say i didnt watch it on the tv, that would have been very hard. i actually found out from a sl player but not until late last night
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| Quote ="Bets'y Bulls"How do we know he was out before he hit the floor? Did I miss that bit?'"
the way his body went completely limp at the point of contact. the way he went face first into the turf without attempting to break his fall. the way he was motionless staring at the sky without so much as a blink. badly timed or not it was a bad one a straight red. i even got a text staright after it happened from a bradford fan calling for his contract to be torn up. i dont agree with that but the red card was the right call. and to the fans saying tomkins was play acting you really do embarrass yourselves. just because he seemed ok second half in the dug out doesnt detract from the fact he got knocked out by a high shot. any other player and and there wouldnt be this debate. The tomkins hate brigade is obviously in full swing, it makes me laugh to be honest how much a hatred fro a player can cloud a reasonable un biased debate.
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| Quote ="lothlorian" i even got a text staright after it happened from a bradford fan calling for his contract to be torn up.'"
Course you did.
That's funny. I got one from a Wigan fan saying the same about Tomkins for always bringing the game into disrepute with his play acting.
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