For those going tomorrow night it is a 7.30pm kick off at St Margaret's Church Hall. It's on Queen's Road which is a couple of minutes up Wells Road which is next to the train station or Grove. There is a map on the link www.ilkleyliteraturefestival.org ... ochure.pdf If anyone fancies a beer before (or indeed after) there is the Station or Midland opposite the train station, or Bar Tat which is on the car park at the back of Bettys. Dinner suits compulsory.

For those going tomorrow night it is a 7.30pm kick off at St Margaret's Church Hall. It's on Queen's Road which is a couple of minutes up Wells Road which is next to the train station or Grove. There is a map on the link www.ilkleyliteraturefestival.org ... ochure.pdf If anyone fancies a beer before (or indeed after) there is the Station or Midland opposite the train station, or Bar Tat which is on the car park at the back of Bettys. Dinner suits compulsory.

I will be in the Station with Smoggy Bull & Shipley Glen Rhino from about 6 45.

I don't think so somehow! Station from 6.45 sounds good though

See you there. A nice frock then.

BTW Shipley Glen Rhino = Sweary Johnny.

F*****g brilliant

Quite interesting, especially for someone like me not as steeped in the history of the game as some on here! And made it with a minute to go despite being straight from where I am working at the moment only half a mile away...

But Sadler remains a complete Prat - hijacked it near the end from the audience, denying others the opportunity to ask questions whilst pontificating on his own account once again.

Sadler did make a prat of himself. But limiting it to one hour was an error, I don't know on whose part. As was said a few times, put 2 RL people in a room & they will argue. But putting 200 in a room & giving them only 10 minutes for Q&A, including Sadler, was barmy. Still a very enjoyable evening.

Enjoyed it but Sadler's waffling spoilt it a bit given the lack of time available for Q&A.

I'd happily go to something like that again but more time for Q&A and a tighter rein needs to be kept on the audience to prevent the bores from taking over.

Ditto.

Could not see you...where were you sat? I know age is taking its toll on my eyes and all that...

www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=191065 Will Dirk Diggler get a response from Mr Sadler though?

www.totalrl.com/index.php?showtopic=191065 Will Dirk Diggler get a response from Mr Sadler though?

If he does it will probably run to 50 pages. Without actually saying anything.

Oh, and respect for Gary Hetherington from HQ being in the audience.

Was right at the very back. Didn't see you either!

Explains why you spent the evening huddled down behind Sweary J.

I was sat one seat in from the LH Side a row or two back from the door.

Literally 4 rows behind the megawindbag.

We might have seen you afterwards had someone not wanted to leave as soon as it finished so as not to get stuck in queues at the bar...

But we always take Pimms & lemonade at 8.30 on the Grove in Ilkley.

Adey putting the boot in on Total RL now. But no comment from Martyn still.

Oh he has now.

Not putting the boot in, just calling it how I (and obviously more than one other) saw it.

It WAS pretty obvious from the body language of the four excellent panel members I thought, as well as ones I could see in the audience, that the feeling was he was out of order.

What happened?

Sounds like Martyn had a decent point that could have been expressed in around sixty seconds, but there you go.

Oh, I thought there had been a murder.

Indeed. It was stated to be a Q&A session, and I'm sure the whole room pretty well realised we had a time constraint. What happened though is that Sadler did not ask any questions, but basically IMO came across as if he was one of the panel expressing his views for at least ten mins without pause, which was probably longer than anyone on the panel spoke continuously. Remember, this was a 60-minute session, and the panel spoke for about 45 mins.

Had he said up-front that he'd found all that interesting (I think we all did - the panel had the audience's full attention throughout), and would anyone mind him adding two or three mins of his own to complement what they had said, I'm sure that (given his knowledge) people would have welcomed that input. At any future event of this nature, I personally would be interested to hear Sadler on the panel sharing his thoughts.

The "social history" point had already been well-made by the panel (indeed, that's the part that interests me the most), especially by the Prof, and indeed had been pretty central to much of what they had to impart. And quite a few books had been mentioned by the panel already, although Sadler added one or two that his own firm publish.

Again though, not to detract from what I found was a very interesting session. And thanks to Tigertot for drawing attention to it in the first place.