Do you think we should ask for reduced admission prices when Ian Smith Referees.................garbage officiating should warrant garbage prices.

Well done to Hull KR for keeping it going.

Your one sad loser mate.

Potter should follow DA's lead and have him banned from taking Saints games.The guy is so obviously biased against us ,its embarassing.

Did we get one penalty in the second half?

He couldn't have got HKR closer to the sticks for the deciding penalty.He missed the forward pass after the kick chase for their second try too.

You know how it feels now? That dummy needs picking up mind.

It was obvious he was going to give a penalty so they could kick a goal, didn't think he'd give them it right in front of the sticks

Don't hear you complaining about the ref after most games, simply because most games the penalty count is well in your favour.

Look at the stats!

Smith is pathetic , at least when he refs us. He gave us nothing and let a fair bit go for the Fish men.

We were poor with unforced errors but he didnt help

What was the penalty count ?

Did we lose all our games when Smith reffed last season.

He's pathetic when he refs, full stop. He was especially bad for us the other week but it got overlooked whilst everyone enjoyed Wigan losing.

He was the video ref last week at our game with leeds last week and dissallowed Jake Websters "try". He obviously thought he owed us one...

And how it showed!!

No complaints from you Scousers when Saint Ganson refs games for you, doing everything except put on a shirt and take a few runs in.

Congratualtions to the RFL. For whatever reason they didn't select Smith for most of last year, they've rectified it by selecting him twice already this year, and given you whingers something else to cry over.

Get over it and stop whinging, and give some respect to the team that had the audacity to beat you.

Long way to go yet till you choke in another Grand Final



Enjoy the weekend

Yeah, first game of the season he was really biased against you. No, really.......







He seemed to do okay for you when you played us at KR. Gave you quite a fair bit.

Typical responses when you lose a game you are expected to win. The ref did this, the ref did that. We're going to write to the RFL demanding he never referees us again. It's childish and pathetic.

This is Saints - every pass by the opposition at KR is forward and Saints never throw a forward - they call offside at every PTB yet they cant see Saints not the ref set the defensive line some 8 metres back. The fact that Anderson dictated which ref he got says much about the arrogance that runs through this club.

i thought he was poor for both teams, the mistakes against us have been mentioned, but from where i was at least one of our tries looked to have come off a forward pass, he just doesn't seem to be able to keep up with the pace of the game.

Fair play to HKR, we were pipped by a better team on the night.
We contributed to our own downfall by not completing one set for the first 25 minutes. And struggled to contain their pace.
That said, Smith made some staggeringly awful decisions. The man is incompetent.

I have gone on record in the past saying I dont worry about referees and that 99% of the time the best team wins. I still stand by that.

I thought the penalty count was overly harsh, I really didn't think we were that indisciplined and that they only transgressed twice in 80 minutes. That is all I have to say.

I really think we could have played it smarter. We should have dropped a goal at 18-12 and tried to level it when we had the chance later.

Fair play to HKR they deserved their win.

You've got laugh at all these people making comments when they didn't even watch the game. Cheers for your useless contribution to the thread.

Exactly what I said at the time. Forget the ref. I don't like Smith and never will, but he was not the reason we lost. Tyhe main 3 factors were...

We lost because we played the game effectively without a stand off, and only fitting managed to get decent ball to the wide men

We played the game with only one centre. Wheeler was anonomous and should have played stand off if he was going to receive so little ball. It was an absolute waste.

The drop goal at 18-12 was sorely needed- make Hull KR have to work to get the points which would have been difficult in a game where errors were common. There is killing teams off by going for the 6 points and macho rugby. We fell into the latter. If we had taken the one pointer, it would have given us more comfort - especially with a kicker as proficient as Dobson in the side.

Indeed it would have took us 2 scores clear and that would have been crucial.

Do you think too much rested on too few?

For example Long was indifferent last night. Did a lot of key organising in the middle, but could not really get the outside backs firing. It seemed like he was playing in two roles, scrum half and stand off.

Likewise with Wilkin, did a load of work but got drawn into having to organise which is not what a second rower should be doing.

I just thought we played near the bottom of our game with ball in hand. I thought if we played Leeds we could have been walloped. The defence really got some bad plays with the ball out of jail.

As much as people will fawn over HKR, they should have won by a greater score given how out of sorts we looked.

To me it just looked like we were looking for a Long or a Cunningham to get us out of jail. The youngsters were not given enough responsinility. We should have gone with wheeler at 6 from the start of the game, given his promise and ability.