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| He has some potential but I've never been overly sold on him as the long term answer to our halfback problems and his game still has glaring deficiencies - it seems as though our coaches agree with me. I won't be too bothered to see him depart for pastures new to be honest.
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"And, as you say, if he's the sort of character that is too busy sulking to do the job at Rochdale, he might not be all he's cracked up to be. That said, if Rochdale got completely whacked up front, it may hav been a case of him trying too hard.'"
According to reports, Rochdale got completely whacked up front and one or two of the RL pundits suggested that Cooper Cronk could have been in the halves and the result would have been the same.
Poor lad can't get to play in a team with a pack who wants to work.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"According to reports, Rochdale got completely whacked up front and one or two of the RL pundits suggested that Cooper Cronk could have been in the halves and the result would have been the same.
Poor lad can't get to play in a team with a pack who wants to work.'"
Don't think the lads heart is in the game at the moment maybe it will be better for him to move on start his career somewhere else
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"According to reports, Rochdale got completely whacked up front and one or two of the RL pundits suggested that Cooper Cronk could have been in the halves and the result would have been the same.
Poor lad can't get to play in a team with a pack who wants to work.'"
There you go. As a previous poster said, none of us know [iall [/ithe facts. It's a shame, many of us remember the Lomaskell partnership and want to see him recreate that form. Most of us would have brought him back in last year for zhohaia. Brown may not have written him off, he may just be trying a few things before he goes back to him.
I would have thought, unless he's causing a stink in the dressing room or something, that he'll get another run out before too long. For a start, I reckon brown will rest James Roby when he gt's a chance and Lance is the only other guy to play hooker (except j-lo).
We'll see, but if two consecutive coaches who don't exactly have glut of quality half options choose not to use him, then there must e a reason, mustn't tere?
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| Quote ="Offside Monkey"We'll see, but if two consecutive coaches who don't exactly have glut of quality half options choose not to use him, then there must e a reason, mustn't tere?'"
Yep but it's not necessarily anything to do with Gaskell.
Remember, Hohaia came over here because he was promised the number 6 shirt.
As an aside, I don't see Gaskell as being a problem behaviourally as he was out and about with the team today doing stuff for Red Nose Day at local primary schools. There was a picture of him and A N Other first teamer (forgotten who it was now) on Twitter, along with TP in a tutu which is an image worth seeing! If he's having attitude issues then he aint going to be out and about representing Saints.
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"Yep but it's not necessarily anything to do with Gaskell.
Remember, Hohaia came over here because he was promised the number 6 shirt. '"
I can't see Brown risking his reputation over something that was promised when he wasn't here. Especially when I consider saints his last chance to elevate his status enough to get that NRL job he longs for. It's not like lance vindicated his position change with his form last year, is it?
Quote As an aside, I don't see Gaskell as being a problem behaviourally as he was out and about with the team today doing stuff for Red Nose Day at local primary schools. There was a picture of him and A N Other first teamer (forgotten who it was now) on Twitter, along with TP in a tutu which is an image worth seeing! If he's having attitude issues then he aint going to be out and about representing Saints.'"
That's fair enough, I was more just hypothesising. His on the field persona certainly doesn't give any impressions of problem child. As for TP, that must be the biggest Tutu ever made!
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Quote ="Offside Monkey"I can't see Brown risking his reputation over something that was promised when he wasn't here. '"
I don't know the workings of rugby league clubs, but if the club is paying a significant sum to a particular player and if that player is not happy, what might be the chances of the coach not having the final say in the matter?
Quote That's fair enough, I was more just hypothesising. His on the field persona certainly doesn't give any impressions of problem child. As for TP, that must be the biggest Tutu ever made!'"
Here we go:
https://twitter.com/saintsdogs/status/3 ... 97/photo/1
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I don't know the workings of rugby league clubs, but if the club is paying a significant sum to a particular player and if that player is not happy, what might be the chances of the coach not having the final say in the matter?
Quote That's fair enough, I was more just hypothesising. His on the field persona certainly doesn't give any impressions of problem child. As for TP, that must be the biggest Tutu ever made!'"
Here we go:
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Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't know the workings of rugby league clubs, but if the club is paying a significant sum to a particular player and if that player is not happy, what might be the chances of the coach not having the final say in the matter? '" I'm not so sure. I may be tempted to go with that if it was someone like Slater or Lockyer, but not Lance Hohaia,and especially not after he was Mr.Average at standoff last year.
Good work, lads.
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Quote ="SaintsFan"I don't know the workings of rugby league clubs, but if the club is paying a significant sum to a particular player and if that player is not happy, what might be the chances of the coach not having the final say in the matter? '" I'm not so sure. I may be tempted to go with that if it was someone like Slater or Lockyer, but not Lance Hohaia,and especially not after he was Mr.Average at standoff last year.
Good work, lads.
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| I don't agree with all this Gaskell sulks and his attitude is wrong the players had a day off today if Gaskell attitude was wrong then he wouldn't be representing the club and going into a local school he would have had an option of doing this and could of turned round and said no if is attitude was wrong and he was a sulker
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| Quote ="1984saints"I don't agree with all this Gaskell sulks and his attitude is wrong the players had a day off today if Gaskell attitude was wrong then he wouldn't be representing the club and going into a local school he would have had an option of doing this and could of turned round and said no if is attitude was wrong and he was a sulker'"
Totally agree with what you said the lad doesn't need to do this but obvious choose too
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| Quote ="1984saints"I don't agree with all this Gaskell sulks and his attitude is wrong the players had a day off today if Gaskell attitude was wrong then he wouldn't be representing the club and going into a local school he would have had an option of doing this and could of turned round and said no if is attitude was wrong and he was a sulker'"
Not if he wants to pay his mortgage - this sort of stuff will be in his contract.
Here's hoping he can take his next chance, but he's currently living off form from two years ago.
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| I see his doesn't make the squad again if he not in the squad next week for the Salford game I think it the last we have seen of him in a saints shirt
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| Quote ="Saints4eva2013"I see his doesn't make the squad again if he not in the squad next week for the Salford game I think it the last we have seen of him in a saints shirt'"
I agree. It would be a travesty to lose a player of Gaskell's undoubted ability.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not if he wants to pay his mortgage - this sort of stuff will be in his contract.'"
It will but that doesn't mean that Saints would necessarily risk sending him out as a rep if he was sulking as some have suggested or if he had other behavioural problems.
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| Quote ="1984saints"I think he already got an agreement in place for next season be interesting to see where he ends up'"
And how do u no this
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| Quote ="Justme2011111"And how do u no this'"
If the rumours are true he as turned a new contract down then he must have somewhere else lined up
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| Quote ="1984saints"If the rumours are true he as turned a new contract down then he must have somewhere else lined up'"
Or hoping for a better offer, or seeing if he gets more game time, or .....
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| Quote ="1984saints"If the rumours are true he as turned a new contract down then he must have somewhere else lined up'"
Not necessarily, he could be hedging his bets to see what he's offered by other clubs.
He'll get another chance before the end of the season, he needs to make sure he takes it.
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| Quote ="Billinge_Lump"He'll get another chance before the end of the season, he needs to make sure he takes it.'" I am not too sure he will get another chance
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| I don't think he will either.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"Not if he wants to pay his mortgage - this sort of stuff will be in his contract.
Here's hoping he can take his next chance, but he's currently living off form from two years ago.'"
Or living off form from 6 games ago???
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| Quote ="1984saints"If the rumours are true he as turned a new contract down then he must have somewhere else lined up'"
If rumours are Anythin to go by he has most of the league after his signature but u seem nailed on his played his last game for saints and already has a club in mind
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| Quote ="Justme2011111"If rumours are Anythin to go by he has most of the league after his signature but u seem nailed on his played his last game for saints and already has a club in mind'"
If he doesn't get a game against Salford then I can't see him playing for the club again they is a reason he ain't player its one of two brown doesn't rate him or something gone on behind closed doors the only people who know this is lee Nathan and the chairman
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| Quote ="1984saints"If he doesn't get a game against Salford then I can't see him playing for the club again they is a reason he ain't player its one of two brown doesn't rate him or something gone on behind closed doors the only people who know this is lee Nathan and the chairman'"
I hope he plays but for some strange reason like u said only lee brown and chairman knows whats going on but can't see him playing again if they don't intend on playing him rather realease him or sell him
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| Better to release or sell. Get some cash, or free up space in the salary. Save the rest of his salary to put a bid in for another player.
I like Gaskell, but pointless having a player who does not play.
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