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| Quote ="saints35 bulls0"
Smith played in the play off semi final (and probably should have played in the GF), and played well enough, but I cant remember any "outstanding" pieces of play he has done throughout his whole time in the Saints team.
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He kicked that touchlien conversion to win us the game against Hull I think it was? Other than that...well ermmm.... yeah, that touchlien conversion.
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| I've been watching Saints for thirty years. I've not been this excited about a young player coming through in all that time. Not even Cunningham.
He's got all the attributes needed to be a world class scrum half. In Fact, I'd go as far as saying that if he gets a good run in the team this year, which I like to think he would, then he could very well be getting a call from Mr Smith at the end of the year. He really is that good.
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| how long until wheeler is fit again?
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"What is this w@nk fest with Eastmond????'"
He reminds us all of [idifferent strokes[/i!
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| Eastmond has been out for a long time and must still be rusty. At this moment Wheeler is closer to match sharpness and if it's a choice between the two for one half back slot I'd go with him, with Eastmond on the bench.
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| Quote ="Supreme Sydney2002"He kicked that touchlien conversion to win us the game against Hull I think it was? Other than that...well ermmm.... yeah, that touchlien conversion.'"
He kicked a penalty on the death to win the match against Hull by one point at the beginning of 2008 season, yes, and soon after broke his leg in a reserves match so we didn't get to see him play again last year. During 2007 he led us in fine form to help secure our place at the Grand Final, covering for Long who was injured for what seemed like ages. He should have played at the Grand Final, not least because (a) Long was clearly not ready to return and (b) he had helped get us there so, IMO, deserved the opportunity. I think he did a fine job for a young bloke and under a lot of pressure given our previous season's success.
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| I just love the fact we are arguing about 3 Saints Juniors replacing Long in the first team...
It wasn't Long ago (see what i tried there) there was quite widespread fear it would be a nightmare to replace Long and Cunningham and Sculthorpe and now with Moore doing so well at Huddersfield and Wheeler, Kyle and Smith (though we hardly see enough its just for Conroy's sake), Clough we are actually debating who should take over from within without even thoughts of signing anyone.
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| I havn't seen enough of any of them (has anyone?) to have a definitive answer. I do know that IMO eastmond is the more exciting prospect at 7 and Wheeler could be a good 6 or centre (ala leon) smith could IMO be a very good 9 as well as 7, and Scott Moore a definite 9. I [ipersonally[/i think we have seen the last of Matty at saints as Kyle looks more confident at 7 and Scott more confident at 9, i just dont see a place for him. It is as has been said before a position other sides would kill to be in.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"I havn't seen enough of any of them (has anyone?) to have a definitive answer. I do know that IMO eastmond is the more exciting prospect at 7 and Wheeler could be a good 6 or centre (ala leon) smith could IMO be a very good 9 as well as 7, and Scott Moore a definite 9. I [ipersonally[/i think we have seen the last of Matty at saints as Kyle looks more confident at 7 and Scott more confident at 9, i just dont see a place for him. It is as has been said before a position other sides would kill to be in.'"
You can throw Lomax into the mix as well.
Exciting times.
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| Quote ="Dux"You can throw Lomax into the mix as well.
Exciting times.'"
they are!, its a shame that 2 of them at least won't have room at saints
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| Lomax could play fullback.
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| Quote ="joe d saint"Lomax could play fullback.'" I was impressed when he played there against Wakey, he looked slick. Its not outrageous to consider that either he or Wheeler could play centre aswell.
its fair to say that even if these lads don't stay at KR, they'll be able to carve out a SL career somewhere.
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| So the backbone of the saints side for the next ten years could easily be:
1 Lomax
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9 Roby/Moore/Smith
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good times indeed, with Graham and Brynne at prop.
+ countless other youngsters in our academy/reserves now coming through
Good times
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| i do not think clough is a LF his more of a SR/PR and play wilkin LF.
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| Quote ="Saint Simon"So the backbone of the saints side for the next ten years could easily be:
1 Lomax
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7 Eastmond/Smith
9 Roby/Moore/Smith
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good times indeed, with Graham and Brynne at prop.
+ countless other youngsters in our academy/reserves now coming through
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Indeed we have a fantastic group of youngsters coming through.
We could easily have
1. Lomax
3. Dean/Foster/Armstrong
6. Wheeler
7. Smith/Eastmond
8. Frodsham
9. Moore/Roby
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13. Clough
Great group of young players.
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| Quote ="joe d saint"i do not think clough is a LF his more of a SR/PR and play wilkin LF.'"
I would've thought that but slick mick keeps picking him there so he must know something
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| It depends what type of role you want your 13 to play.
If you want him to do a ton of work for 80mins, Cloughy is your man.
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| Quote ="The Chief"If you want him to do a ton of work for 80mins, Cloughy is your man.'"
Yes i do !
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| Quote ="ST_CONROY"Indeed we have a fantastic group of youngsters coming through.
We could easily have
1. Lomax
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8. Frodsham
9. Moore/Roby
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13. Clough
Great group of young players.'"
Don't forget about Wilf
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| Quote ="Eurob0y"LOL
This is quite possibly the most ludicrus claim I have ever heard on here.
What is this w@nk fest with Eastmond????'"
He's the most exciting youngster I've seen come through at Saints since I've been watching. We've had some good young players down the years, but Eastmond has a zip about him that I've never seen before. If he fulfills his potential he'll be top class.
Quote ="Mugwump"Eastmond has been out for a long time and must still be rusty. At this moment Wheeler is closer to match sharpness and if it's a choice between the two for one half back slot I'd go with him, with Eastmond on the bench.'"
Wheeler is injured mate, so your opinion is b*llocks.
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| Quote ="Shawy"Kyle is ready for Longys no7.... Longy will always be a legend in my eyes. But Castleford next sun Kyle should start & kick goals, after kicking his 1st 2 goals Longy only got 1/7. This should be Seans last season (before he gets his pension at warrington) at 7. We need to move on with Eastmond. The whole crowd picks up when he comes on & recieves the ball. Give Longy a bit of a rest & play em both this season at 7.'"
I agree with what ya saying but long should never had walked straight into the starting 13.
By leaving long on bench sends a message to the young players that if you play well they stay in team.
It also sends a message to the whole squad that the are players ready and waiting to play if they don't perform.
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| Quote ="St pete"I agree with what ya saying but long should never had walked straight into the starting 13.
By leaving long on bench sends a message to the young players that if you play well they stay in team.
It also sends a message to the whole squad that the are players ready and waiting to play if they don't perform.'"
By that logic, Wilkin should still be at 7
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| I see we still haven't managed to produce a quality winger since Sean Day.
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| Quote ="Ski"By that logic, Wilkin should still be at 7'"
Don't get me started ski haha
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| Quote ="St pete"Don't get me started ski haha'"
You know, I never thought about that when making the post.
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