Safe journey over today guys but hopefully a return empty handed! looking forward to a cracking match.

Does anyone know what radio station it is on this afternoon?

Wish FM I believe.

Defence sounded shocking once again and with just weeks before the play offs, that's a really bad sign. Unlike Leeds, I don't think we have the ability to switch on and off like they do.

To be fair Leeds took a drubbing when they came to Belle Vue 2 weeks ago.

No props, no halves, no centres, no coach, no ideas = NO CHANCE

Our halves might have been very good by now if they'd been allowed to build on their experiences of last season instead of being split up with one of them relegated to u20s and the other trying to build a new partnership with a player who isn't a halfback.

Wakey have been playing very well for a few weeks now and I would have been surprised had we won there because they have shown far more creativity and desire in the matches of theirs I have watched lately than Saints.

But then they have a coach and we do not.

As I said Leeds turn it on and off and only really play in the bigger games now (they're in a Cup Final for a reason).

We're just not good enough, it's as simple as that.

nothing to do with the coach....its the clumsiness of the plonkers who kept dropping the ball in our own area to let them pick it up to drop a goal.
22....8 down then comeback to take the lead then let it slip with the usual ball dropping lost us the game.

I'm starting to worry that we need two halves for next year.

We was a beaten pack again today, any big aggressive pack and we struggle.

This squad looks like it needs major surgery.

At the moment we're simply a game-in game-out plodding team it's very true. Rush wouldn't know how to bring any variety or another level out of our performance if his very life depended on it. It's just a case of grinning and bearing and getting the rest of this dreary little season over and done with and then starting afresh and hoping for much better for next year now.

what gets me is earlier in the season we came out like men possesed against the rhinos and wire and won the games....also a good win against leeds on their own ground.
suddenly its all gone back to the going through the motions rugby...

We look good when we have momentum and on the front foot but when teams get on top we struggle, our pack just gets over powered and we've no brains in the team to change the game.

Nathan Brown got one hell of a Job on his hands!

Always a chance of happening with Wakefield having everying to play for.

That being said, we already know the squad and coaching isn't good enough. No revelation here. At least we are still up there challenging however.

Just had txt, robes suspected broken hand, season could be over

If his season is over then it really is over for us.

That's what Wigan speccies are saying about their team too.

But there pack walks all over ours everytime we play.

It was a good game to watch today. Unfortunately it was also a horrible spectacle when you realised one of the teams in it was Saints. It was very much a bottom of the table clash, it had the air of a relegation decider with two desperate teams playing terrible stuff at times.

Their trio of Mathers, Sykes and Smith was better than Wellens, Hohaia and Lomax with ease. Smith in particular made us look stupid at times, his kicking game was such a danger and we never looked capable of holding them out. Their pack with such luminaries as Mariano, Raleigh and Johnson got the better of ours.

Most worrying thing though is the defending. It's utterly rubbish, we have no organisation and no aggression. There is no commitment to keep a side out at all. We don't have a captain or a leader who can say a few words and wake the team up, Wello is such a negative factor as captain. Throw a Graham, Cunningham or Sculthorpe in there today and we'd have won, not for the quality of their play, just for their leadership. He was just nowhere in defense again today, we're playing with 12.

Positives? Very, very few. Meli in attack, LMS at times? I just can't wait for this season to finish.

Very poor display from us today, we didnt do the little things right and turned the ball over far too cheaply...

After their first drop goal effort, we decided to give them the back back around the half way mark with first Laffranchi then Gaskell coughing the ball up when we should have been respecting it not throwing stupid offloads.

Moving Lance to 9, Roby to 13 and Gaskell to 6 was a mistake imo, we lost direction round the park due to the inexperience of the halves and nullified our 2 best attacking options (other than Meli) up to that point with Roby moving away from the ruck and also Lance made a couple of good line breaks form first receiver.

Our defence looked too easily broken and for all the Jon Wilkin critics I think today highlighted how much graft he does get through when he plays. Between him and Sia it must be an average of about 80 tackles a game that we need to make up for and the guys coming in didnt do enough to compensate for this.

Our kicking game is non existent, and for some reason thought it would be a consistently good idea to put the ball high up in the air to Fox and Mathers and not have anybody challenging them to try to win the ball.

Moan over, I think the Wire game took a lot out of the tank for us (especially the defence we had to get through on our own line in the first 20 mins) and we looked tired. TP looks to be carrying an injury and if so he needs to be rested until fit as he doesnt look anywhere near as effective at the start of the season. I would rather have this dip in form now than in 4 weeks and we have got time now to pick ourselves back up and build momentum for the playoffs. If Roby has broken his hand and is done for the season it will be a massive blow for us, although Lomaskell in the halves got us to a GF last year and people have been calling for them all season to play so maybe that will give us a chance to see if they were right. We wrote ourselves off last season and then ended up beating Wigan twice in the playoffs to make the GF again so I wouldnt say season over just yet, we just need to learn from our mistakes today and work to correct them for Cas on Friday.

COYS

Because the players are just not being motivated to turn up and play to their capabilities. Those performances show what this squad of players [icould[/i be doing on a consistent basis if they got a rocket up their collective posteriors. I hope and pray that Brown is the man to do it... I'll say it again - there ain't much wrong with our current playing personnel, it just needs to be made to turn up and play more often.

Tell me about it...

On the positive side it more or less puts an end to my lingering fears of another O/T tonking coming our way.

It was an excellent game as suggested by all the commentators and jurnos. As ever you show yourself of for the bad loser and epically unknowledgeable RL fan you are.

It's to be hoped Wakefield never play someone when we are actually playing good Rugby, as I fear we'd run a hundred past them



Well done, biggest dummy spit of the year

Our squad? What about Wigan's? I mean, every single one of their forwards was monstered by Wire and so they're all obviously completely useless players and Wigan will never be able to compete for trophies at the top level relying on that utterly gutless, dominated pack of theirs. Get shut of them all and go digging in the back garden to see if there are any international quality forwards buried there who'll show some guts and aggression to replace them with instead I say. And as for that Tomkins? Useless!!! Didn't come up with [iany[/i game-winning plays at all in the entire game! Wigan will never challenge while they're relying on such an easily contained and toothless attacking player at full back! And the rest of their backs? Wire ran rampant over them! Garbage every single one of them. I don't know what's going wrong with Wigan's retention and recruitment, I really don't! They [iseriously[/i need to start offloading most of their squad and make some decent signings instead, and soon!!!