Surely that makes DA a weaker coach than Potter then?

DA: Strong side, looking unbeatable during regular season. Bottle GF's.
Potter: Weak side, struggle for form during regular season. Push Leeds all the way in GF.

But lets face it, if I had coached that Saints side, do you think they would have failed to make the GF?

We had no real challenge in the play offs. Huddersfield's season finished on Challenge Cup final day and Wigoon weren't up to much.

The side Potter has isn't that much weaker than those Anderson had. He's one or two men down in terms of the squad, but the 17 we put out at the weekend was as good.

Shut your hole you.

It's true, I'm not Potters greatest fan after this season, but [ieveryone[/i knew that this time would come... where the squad is getting older and we are having the same transitition period that Wigan had in 2005 -2006. No matter who came in after DA, he was going to get stick if we didn't start winning things immediately.
I just think it's a little early to be calling for his head.

I'm with you there.
Tony Smith seems to have noticed as well.

I think the outcome of the season was clear for everyone. But what I didn't expect was the nature of the failure this season. The [iway [/iwe played.

I see where you are coming from, but on the other hand, I think... considering how badly we have been playing (especially since August) getting to the GF and putting up a good fight, was an achievement in itself.

True, for any other club it is. But for that squad not winning anything is an underachievement IMO. Losing to Huddersfield in the semi destroyed the belief the club had in itself. It all went downhill after that.

I agree, I think that the CCSF was the turning point for us this year, but hopefully it's just a blip. Next season we need to keep blooding the youngsters, and hopefully Potter will get us playing expansive rugby again....
I would have no issue if we won nothing for a season or two, so long as we are bringing kids into the squad and actually looking like we are putting some effort in, imo we need the foundations of the squad rebuilding, and now is the time to do it.

He has helped coach the Saints out of Saints and now with the lack of pace in the side you can't win big games. It's a sorry state of affairs for the team that was once the most entertaining side to watch in the sport.

Got to agree with the boring rugby, because it has been, i left more games early this season than i have done in the whole time ive been going to knowsley road, which is 28 years or so. Im not bothered about winning anything, i like the trophies to be shared around, but i want entertaing for my money and time, and i haven`t been this season unfortunately. Weather or not that is potters fault, i don`t know. I think its time wheeler got a run at stand off, i watched him play as an amateur and haven`t seen many better, i would consider putting pryce at full back, he played there for us a few seasons ago for a couple of games, he reads the game better from behind the line and gets more time to get going, would then have to consider giving wellens a go at loose forward if this happened. Just my thoughts.

well done for adopting an attitude Leeds took in 2001! You're only 8 years on the uptake!

I was Reading interview with potter other day, he was saying that he would have liked longy to stay.

He also said a lot of saints players have steeped contracts meaning that players wages rise each year.

He went on to say that from outside we don't seem to be signing players or giving players new deals but current players wages still going up.

if that is the case, then his hands are tied!!!

yadda yadda!

am i wrong?

I wasn't into RL 8 years ago, thus I have no idea what Leeds, or indeed Saints were doing around that time.

forgot you were dossing around down south back then, you glory fan!

But that doesn't mean he should try and make Saints play in the way Catalans did. Catalans are a bunch of big blokes, the culture is different and the skill sets are different. Saints have always played flowing, open attacking rugby league and an awful lot of Saints fans are missing that because that is the reason we watch them. Potter has undoubtedly snuffed us out so far as our attack is concerned. Not only did that render us useless on Saturday night after Meli's almighty balls ups but it also means week after week we are enduring the most boring rugby most fans can remember Saints playing and why should fans endure that when even a year ago we knew how to pass a ball out wide and score a try?

I get the impression people at Catalans thought the world of Potter. Fair enough. But just because a coach does well with one team it cannot be assumed that he will do equally well with another.

So far as the OP is concerned and Slick Mick speaking in the third person about Saints, he has done that consistently and it sends a clear signal to many fans that he really doesn't want to be here. For many, the feeling is mutual.

Have you not thought that perhaps the lack of pace/leg/energy after aging players have worked hard all season has forced saints up the middle in the latter stages of the season? I saw no complaints when you knocked Leeds out of the Challenge Cup



That cannot be assumed, but to come into a team that was not his, stamp his mark on it, and get a team to 3rd in the league shows a talent for coaching, be it at Saints, Catalans, Wigan or Leeds



Who would you have instead?

I wouldn't blame him for not wanting to be at Saints, for starters the fans haven't given him a chance to stamp his mark on the team! what a merry bunch you all are, you can't even get behind your team in a Grand Final Semi-Final. Even the Wigan away fans outsung you.

We were still playing Anderson's rugby back then. We were wonderful in that match.


And there you have it. Potter has now stamped his mark upon the team. And we have the most boring Saints side in God knows how long. Saints are not Catalans. Surely you can appreciate that point? But he is approaching them in the same way. Wrong, wrong, wrong.


I have no idea who is available but he would probably have to be cheap since our chairman has made it abundantly clear that at present the wallet has a padlock on it.

Where do people get this idea from that Catalans where boring ? They always played off the cuff under Potter from what i seen!

exactly, it suits SaintsFans agenda to assume that, but they didn't!

No, we are boring! Catalans were a big pack, and still are a big pack, and are known for going up the middle. We are not a big pack and we are not as effective going up the middle.

And Catalans sometimes could be very boring. Sometimes, if Bosc was on form, they could be very spontaneous. But also they could just play relatively boring up the middle rugby.

Translation = that is SaintsFan's opinion.

it shows how little you know. while potter was there everything revolved around Mogg, McGuire and Greenshields. Once catalans reverted back to this game plan in the latter half of the season then they were much more effective.