Refer to you guys as st helens and not ''us'' or ''we''?

It sounds really strange.

In one of his interviews after the game he said ''it's a bitter pill to swallow for st helens''

You read that and think he's talking about another team.

Wish he was tbh

I know, 2nd in the league, a grand final, and a CC semi is a terrible season isn't it ?

get off his back ffs

why ? we've won f**k all and we play the most boring Rugby I've ever seen a Saints team produce ... he gets paid to deliver and he hasnt.

don't come back next season, ta

mate, get a reality check on what we've achieved this year.

Along with boring one man rugby, yes it is.

How about you k!ss my ? I'm a season ticket holder and entitled to my opinion. Potter has failed imo - I can handle losing but what really cheeses me off is the style of play we currently have .. it's cr@p

=redIf you two want a bitch-fight, do so via PM. Carlos.

Not the point really - we have looked poor. It's pretty dreadful stuff to watch at times.. you've gotta admit that.

We lost the final due to about 3 mistakes of "senior" players, the tactics were spot on and 30 mins in we had leeds rattled. Potter can't be blamed for errors of seasoned professionals

We lost the final because of a few defensive lapses yes - but we camped on Leeds line for periods of time and never even looked like scoring. I cant argue are dense is excellent but creativily we were very very poor and have been for some time now. I watch saints every home game and as many away games as I can get in and I can honestly say we've turned into a very boring team

You can only have an opinion, if you agree with the masses.

The rugby we have played this year has been cr@p, a bit like when Potter was in charge of Catalan. He will never achieve anything at Saints and I hope he is not allowed to see out his contract.

What would you opinion be on Potter if:

Gardner or Eastmond scored one of the trys they missed by inches

and

Smiths try had been disallowed

?

Mine personally wouldnt change - the brand of Rugby we play is poor and I think we have been carried through a bit this year because of some of the quality we have in the side despite Potters tactics.

Despite the excuses some people insist on making this year (latterly) we seem to have lost the link between the halves and the outside backs, Pryce looks lost and constantly gets the ball with defenders in his face, and to top that off we also seem to have lost the ability to get a kick away on the last tackle. We havent been blessed with a great kicking game for a long time now but this year its just got worse - we've knocked on or turned over possetion on the last more times than I've seen in years.

If you are asking me, the same. We have over-achieved this season and whislt we may have played well in certain games, the consistency hasn't been there and the brand of rugby has been boring.

If my aunty had a dicky then she would'nt be my aunty.

Who is to say Leeds would not have responded...?

The truth is that Potter has bored the pants off most fans. The flair has completely evaporated from the side. There are mitigating circumstances like the slower PTB, but MP's style is grind it down the middle.

The traditions of the club have always been ones of open and attacking rugby. I think there are more than a few who may be picking and choosing their games next season whilst MP remains in charge - FFS we looked short of ideas against Salford.

Totally agree with this, he plays down the middle with a team without a full compliment of props. The props he does have are ball playing props but he doesn't play to these strengths and is stiffling the team.

To me it looks like our line in attack is much flatter than under Daniel Anderson. It doesn't suit Pryce at all as the defense are in his face to quickly. It's made Meli look better in attack as we're creating an overlap for him. If I remember correctly we used to have a staggered shallow and deep attacking line under Daniel Anderson giving us both options.

yeah, must have been a different coach that saw Justin Murphy the leading try scorer in 2006, the "greenshields" scrum play developed in 2007 and Murphy go at a try a game in 2008!

I dont give a what he did at Catalans but I can see with my own eye's what Saints have turned into this season. We have plenty of excuses to hide behind but the simple fact is at the moment we play very very dour Rugby. Maybe with a good off season we will be better next year .. guess we'll have to wait and see

One of the best Saints performances i've seen in recent years came at Headingley earlier this year, when Wilkin played 6, wonder who decided to play him there?



I can see with my own eyes that Saints have an ageing squad and fatigued at the the back end of the season. Who do you blame for that? Potter for not replacing the tired players with new ones or the previous management for offering contracts to a whole squad of players that would see them at Saints in their mid-30's?

Lets face it..... He's done no worse than DA did in his first season... if we're not counting finishing top.

Some of our fans need a reality check, DA gets all the praise in the world.... but he still failed to win us 2 Grand Finals v Leeds... and that was with a much stronger squad than Potter has had to chose from.


Get off the guys back...

hark at her!

But under DA the signs of success were always there. We played very well the majority of the time and you could see the team winning trophies.

Can you honestly see this Saints side under Potter winning anything? It's a struggle to see them winning an away game next season at the moment, given how few points we're scoring. The attacking deficiencies are not a short term thing, it's getting on for 10 games since we scored more than 15 points, which is absolutely ridiculous.