he has one aspect to his personality that rational people can agree with him on, but just one

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Billinge, Nr. Wigan, Lancs.
And always will be.

Cripes, do I need to write it again?

"The Government was (and still is) happy to confirm that the counties themselves were unaffected: "The new county boundaries are solely for the purpose of defining areas of ... local government. They are administrative areas, and will not alter the traditional boundaries of counties, nor is it intended that the loyalties of people living in them will change."

The boundaries were NOT moved. There were simply new "areas" created which overlapped counties and boroughs. Lancashire, as a county, was too big for local government to have one council, so they divided it up into the Metropolitan Boroughs. The word county was used poorly to represent these, the county itself is unaffected. Warrington has its own borough council, would you say Warrington is now in the county of Warrington?



You make a fine point. Next to at least one of the bridges is a county marker stone (I can't remember exactly where it is, but I think it's between Stockton Heath and Warrington itself) which a local taxi driver pointed out to me when we had this very discussion in his cab (The next day my first daughter was born, so I can actually name the date I had this discussion, even if it was back in 2005!). Again, though, we are faced with the dilemma... Are the little satellite towns actually IN Warrington, or simply near Warrington? They're covered by Warrington Borough Council nowadays, I'm sure, but I suspect back in the days when local pride counted for something they each referred to whatever county they were in no matter how close to the boundary they were.

Local pride, you can't beat it.

If I send a letter to someone in Warrington, I'll put Lancashire on the envelope, but if someone wants to refer to it as being in Cheshire, feel free. Most of us know where it really is.

Now for the next discussion... What's a moggy?



(Can open, worms everywhere)

I'd have said greater manchester was a conurbation.

It's great to see ,rivalries aside just for a minute, the sides this side of the Pennines being at the top. It was said on the radio last week Bradford and Cas were the only Yorkshire teams to win in SL last week


And on the Counties isue I wish more people would still use 'Lancashire' on envelopes. Annoys me that artificial Metropolitan counties are used most commonly on addresses as it leads to a lot of people my generation referring to them as their county.