Why have we heard so little from KS and GH over the shocking state our club is in? GH was writing letters to fans before now in previous terrible seasons.

Perhaps they don’t know how to stop the rot?

Sinfield said something a week or so ago. I'm sort of glad we're not hearing too many interviews with players about hurting, dark places and the like.

He did, but that was one isolated article in 10 rounds so far. I don’t want to hear about how bad the players feel either. I want to hear what we are doing about gristly recognising the problems we have and then what we are going to do about fixing them.

The lack of communication with what is effectively a customer base isn’t good news.

What do you want him to say

"look, we know we've got a load of average players but were stuck with them until the end of the season" - I would suggest that's not the best way to motivate the team to keep us from going down.

I don't give a monkeys about some PR from the club I want them to get on with the job of getting us further up the table.

They got it wrong in the winter letting all and sundry know that contracted players were availible

GH&KS have to take some blame for this mess.
The players are supposed to be professional for gods sake but over half of the first team squad are substandard.What are the new back room staff doing?,they should have lard a**e Lolohia working on a farm with a fridge strapped to his back..Seriously it's very sad,the club in debt,poor players with a bad attitude and a empty new stadium(maybe) next season

I don’t see PR and better results as mutually exclusive. For example, if he were to say something along the lines of “we know the current squad lacks some of the quality that we would like to see at Leeds such that we can regularly challenge for honours, and the rest of this season is an opportunity for all the current playing squad to show the management and fans that they should be part of our future. Additionally we continue to search for the right quality people and players to join our journey and enhance the playing squad for next season and beyond. We hope to make some exciting announcements about high quality additions in the next month or two.”

That gives people some comfort that we’re not just staring into the bottom of our whisky glasses wondering what to do about it on the cheap, and tells the players if they pull their fingers out of their butts they can be part of the future.

Probably like most people they are shell shocked.

Your panicking to early, there’s nowt won in March/April. Myler your organiser who gets a lot of unnecessary flack, was missing last night, consequently you were rudderless, half a dozen old boys waiting to exact revenge, a perfect storm, with Garbut and Mulhearn waiting for you, why not try Golding full back, and Walker at six. Loads of average teams this year us included.

I wouldn’t describe you as average, if you can keep McGuire and Garbut fit ,along with hall you might surprise a few people this year.

Lol I’m black & white and we’re really average

Apologies, I looked at your location and wrongly assumed you were a robin. Least your ground is a damn site warmer than rovers. It was absolutely freezing over there the other night. In the interest of fairness, get Conner back and Kelly fit, you should be ok.

They should empty the fridge first though!

No problem

Brad dwyer is making a lot of noise, currently in the pub over the road from me in the temple bar.

I think the players must have been given a few dsys off as they all seem to be away, tui and hur were both abroad.

It's getting to the time when new contracts are usually announced .then I think the silence will be deafening

SMTM said he had a deal to be done this week with a Leeds player, didn’t say whether it was a retention or anything though.

I’ve heard from a reliable source that someone from Leeds is going to York. Which kinda matches up to SMTM. Wonder who it is as they’ve been offered McClelland a few times and have said no. Guess we’ll see tomorrow

Its all well and good people having a dig at Myler, there are far worse players in our shirt conning a wage right now I can guarantee you. Just how many other coaches were approached before Furner is what I'd like to know, 1 other and Furner I bet, if that. Getting rid of BMcD Is the single, biggest glaring foul up Hetherington has ever done. Period.

Why? Are you suggesting we weren't heading downwards fast when he was let go? The squad hasn't responded to anybody else since, but BM's job had become completely untenable because he was presiding over our second disastrous season in three years and seemingly unable to do anything about it. Not to mention that he was given the chance to stay on to the end of the year - he chose to jump immediately.

Bang on. Almost 8 years in charge that is by far the longest serving coach i have seen at leeds in my time watching over 30 years and i would assume one of the longest serving in our history. He had his time and then some.

You had a really long serving one who was there when I first saw Leeds play in Hull back in the mid 40's. Remember my dad talking about seeing him play for Leeds and being an international league and union player.
Looking him up it was Dai Prosser who coached Leeds from 1936-1957

Guys, we've heard the "rumors" and until "rumor" becomes "fact" we'll call it a day here methinks.

If true there will be a discussion and the posts will be re-instated, but im afraid putting "allegedly" after posts doesn't cover RFLFAN's from litigation.

Sorry to be "that" guy.

ESR

I've watched the highlights of fridays game on sky and the super league show. The basics are glaringly missing. Tries from near the line where there are three defenders on that man. The worst one was where Watkins just stands and looks and doesn't even get stuck into the tackle. The goal line defence and also defence further up allowing quick breaks has been seen by our opposition. We will continue to be torn apart until the defensive basics are sorted out.

As someone rightly posted on Friday, if Hurrell or Dwyer get injured then lets start looking for some paddles down the creek we are now in. GH's plan for Leeds has ultimately failed and I seriously question some of his signings and way he has managed the club in recent years. As for KS, he would have been our hero had there been a turn around but his lack of experience since leaving as a player and being a coach/manager is showing now. I do question Furners signing as he was not proven and this has come back to haunt us. Maybe there is not communication coming from the club as they simply can't cover or paper up all of the mistakes they have made.