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I do think there was a split camp in Australia but that’s now history and its back on with thre season. Hopefully Tony Smith noticed this and he’ll improve it in the game against France. Personally however I just don’t think players like to travel half way across the world to play rugby.

James Roby spent most of his time missing his young son and wife whilst we all know what was on Keith Seniors mind!

I think he's right, I hate saints or should that be pity????

With the lack of any real rivalry from Bulls these days, Saints are clearly our biggest rivals

Sad to say that after Leeds (of course) Saints were always my favourite team - primarily because they play the kind of rugby I really like.

Our traditional enemies I think were alway Wigan, Bradford (and to a much lesser extent these days) Warrington.

Still I do hope we get one over on them tonight. I suspect our result against Wigan was somewhat flattering as someone forgot to tell them the game had started until it was 20 minutes too late. Think we may be onto our first loss of the season...

I have to say i dont hate leeds, and as a student went to watch them. I think its due to growing up in the late 80's/early 90's when Leeds and Saints were the only teams with half a chance of beating wigan! If you were'nt our main (only

) real rivals now i would probably still wish you all the success of coming 2nd

Well as the last 2yrs have proved coming 1st hasn't done you lot any good!!

I don't understand where the "love" thing comes from?

Saints are the big rivals at the moment, which is probably what matters to the players. To me Wigan will probably always be the main enemy, althoughh when I lived and worked in Leeds, the Bradford results always mattered because of the large number of Dulls fans I knew.

I don't feel too good.

Saints used to be very much like us when I first started watching the game, a flair side that won very little. I quite liked them.

The they got to be quite successful, taking the mantra from the hated Wigan. I quited liked them.

Then they would regularly bring the Bulls down a peg or two when the Bulls were going well and it was dark days for us. I quite liked them.

However, there's no doubt the rivalry has intensified over the last couple of years and their fans arrogance about their place just behind us as Sl elite team these last few years has meant I now like them less.

Similar to you in SL terms, I liked them because they were the only team who would beat Wigan and Bulls to trophies. When Millward took over and turned them into cheats I started to like them less. Now they implode at Old Trafford annually I quite like them again

[uWhy I Hate Saints[/u by SDB

1) Leon Price Never has so much talent been wasted by such a lazy lazy man. Keeps McGuire outta the England team, yes he might have had the same results as Price but at least he'd have stood up to be counted down under. Big lower lip is also terribly annoying. Lost his bottle when he smashed it over someones head.
2) Keiron Cunningham Why is someone so tubby so good at Rugby??? Its just not fair, He can get to Greggs and still play hooker


3) Sean Long Any player that bets against there own team winning is well quite frankly a Prick! Also has ridiculous Haircuts that rape my eyes!Failed to find his balls; resulting in him leaving halfway through a tour Down Under


4) Knowsley Road SH1T HOLE...I just dont like it.....Surely they could do something with it (Flatten/Torch it ???) Appreciate they have plans for a New Stadium but that doesnt affect the fact Im going to be stood in a grott hole tonight
5) James Roby Good Player, like him, rate him...however....I dont think he was M.O.S in any way shape or form. So i'll throw him in there.
6) That Away Kit Now Im no marketing executive however I suspect when trying to bring in revenue a slightly nicer away kit may be more sucessful....
7)Ade Gardner I just dont like the pube faced swine....I cant help myself. I think it stems to last October when I was up at 8 on a Saturday morning to watch him give his "How to be an Atrocious Winger" 4 week short course. I mean 8am.....on a weekend??? We the rugby league fans of the world didnt deserve that?
8 ) Some of their fans Every club will have idiots in its fanbase however the more I see Saints fans the more I think idiocracy is a pre-requisite when applyin for Fan Status. We all know the type of women you dont want to have to look at for a long time whilst trying to enjoy a Rugby match. You hear her shout in her gravelly 20 a day voice "They Can't Run Without their Heads." or some other just as eloquent comment. The Cheer leaders try to numb the pain but it just won't go away. There are just too many Dobbers that are Saint Helens Fans.FACT!

I like their away kit, barring the unfortunate Saints badge, which spoils it.

Its a bit too Plymouth Argyle for me. But at Least Plymouth have "ginsters" as there sponsor. Its a pretty poor away shirt for me. Too Plain and Too Boring.

For me.

saints fans arrogant,. nobody more arrogant than leeds team and fans. you started doing something in super league about 2/3 years ago.

As opposed to Saints long history of dominance you mean?

Most teams dislike Saints, it comes with the territory of being the most successful side of the modern era of rugby league. Even when Leeds have won the GF, Saints are still the side most spoken about, even during a lean period for Saints in which we haven't won the championship we have still won more silverware than Leeds. We have apparently been in decline for the past 10 years yet continually represent the pinnacle of the SL. We're at this level despite having one of the worst grounds in the game. You just know as a Saints fan that teams dislike you, envy you and have a huge inferiority complex, even after beating us. Its just a case of waiting til we regain the GF again (and again as a Saints fan, you know that it wont be too long).

I like the way Leeds play rugby and I like their confidence. You always know that Leeds will give us a game and won't shirk the battle like the Bulls used to do and like Wigan do with us now. I suppose Leeds are like a mini Saints without the same flagship status.

Looking forward to tonight, should be a cracker and its tough to pick a winner but the Rhinos must be favourites.

I'm A Stand Up Comedian by profession. You should Try it;...........No Really!

Here's my reason.

This is why the Leeds fans hate us. No one wants to talk about Leeds winning the GF, the talk is all about St Helens losing. They have such an inferiorty complex that when you talk about anything rugby related, wether it be attendences, history, players wives, anything, they always mention how they are back to back champions. I remember all those years ago, when we did it, you know, when Leeds were messing around in mid table, our fans didnt keep on mentioning it.

I used to think WIgans fans had the biggest inferiority complex. They dont, Leeds fans do by a hell of a long way.

I like your style SS, thats not a bad troll at all.

And another.

Define "modern era".

If you mean the last 20 years, then join the queue behind Wigan - a long way behind.