Yes much better to have it stashed away in some 'high interest' account gathering dust while the team struggles on the field to win big games.

Hetherington by plenty.

Nope

Off contract at the end of the season are:

George Carmont (Wigan)
Phil Bailey (Wigan)
Paul Johnson (Warrington)
Tony Clubb (Harlequins)

Yeaman and Shenton are both off contract for 2010, if we get Carmont/Bailey and Senior on for another year, then sign Shenton/Yeaman for 2010 to pair up with Watkins.

Yes, I see it now. having George Carmont, Phil bailey, Paul Johnson or Tony Clubb in our right centre and we walk over Saints on Sunday.

excuse the homage but..........bwah ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Absolutely agree. If anybody thinks Carmont or Bailey is an improvement on what we have, you are seriously desperately deluded. Why the hell do you think Wigan signed Gleeson?

Clubb is actually a very good player, really strong and can in the back-row or on the wing too.

We certainly missed Smith on Sunday. I also have to question Senior's role on Sunday as he was constantly out of position. I'm not saying he was to blame entirely. There were times we seemed to allow them room to run with the ball. It looked like the GF but in reverse.

You reckon?

One word. Gullible.

Not everyone who signs up for rlfans has another account...

So if Smith leaves at the end of the year, you would have Gibson over Carmont???

Definately, with out a doubt.

And, there is no proof yet that Smith will be any better than Gibson at centre. He is a class fullback, a class winger. But nothing seen yet to suggest he is a better centre than Gibson.

If Smith leaves and we're signig an overseas replacement I'd hope it would be much higher quality and much younger than Carmont. Otherwise, yes, i'd persevere with Gibson and Watkins.

I'm starting to wish we'd never let Toopi go now. Whilst not setting the world on fire over here he was adequate at right centre, and also looked pretty destructive on the rare occasion he moved into the pack. Depends what condition his body was in thoigh, I suppose.

I'm aware of that. Those who start new accounts usually hang around rather than posting and disappearing.

Rolling your eyes is so very 'Erasure'.

He was castigated wrongly on here IMO.

Who says he won't make a return?

He can't be on the side-lines for too much longer. And with Eastwood being moot, there is obvious space on the salary. Could it happen realistically? Could the 2p be back at Headingley? I liked him, I stuck up for him alot. A centre who can chalk up 30 tackles a game is always worth considering IMO. And looking at the season review DVD from '07, he had a hand in more try's than you would have thought.

Toops back home???? Surley not??????

Wasn't just on here either, was the same at games.

Didn't we move him to left centre for a game against Saints at KR in '07 and he kept Gidley very quiet.

I believe the future will be at no1 Jones-Bishop, no 2 Broughton no3 Gibson no 4 Watkins no 5 Ryan Hall. possibly by 2010 certainly by 2012.

I dunno about that. I do remember him still tackling everything in sight in a WCC with a shoulder that wasn't attached to where it should be. Stopped a clear break during that time, before he was dragged off.

Yes.

Loiner4Life actively encouraged booing.

I rated Toopi, I supported him on here.

How illustrative of the Leeds supporters that they are now pining for a guy they ruthlessly pilloried whilst he was here.

Quite.

Thirded.