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| Quote ="christopher"Im no MacNamara fan and I hope he doesn't replace Smith but I think its unfair to compare Wane and McDermott with him.
Going to coach a near relegated catalans side to coaching the Wigan and Leeds sides wane and Mcdermott did is a different kettle of fish IMO.'"
Catalans aside, McNamara's tenure at Bradford has quite a lot in common with the final years of Brian Mac at Leeds (minus the trophies). Bradford were still spending full cap when McNamara was in charge, and whilst their financial woes ultimately did for their stay in SL, McNamara's time handling the pressure at a big club with expectations is hardly a ringing endorsement for him taking on another pressure job. He might be a better coach now than in 2009, but still...
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| Quote ="christopher"the list of those that disagree will be longer'"
More than likely but as in most cases the minority shout louder than the majority. There has to be a reason behind the quality of NRL players Leeds are able to attract these days?
This is the by far the biggest club in SL but that is not reflected in the quality of player it attracts from the NRL:
Miller - 29 - played 19 games in the NRL
Momirovski - 27 - played 60 NRL games with 5 different clubs
Faustitua - 29 - played 108 games - had significant injury problems which is a factor in the warriors let him go
Frawley - 29 - 50 games in NRL - was a disaster at the Giants - why?
Lisone 30 - 120 NRL games
Is this the best Leeds can attract - if so why?
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| Quote ="Exeter Rhino"Catalans aside, McNamara's tenure at Bradford has quite a lot in common with the final years of Brian Mac at Leeds (minus the trophies). Bradford were still spending full cap when McNamara was in charge, and whilst their financial woes ultimately did for their stay in SL, McNamara's time handling the pressure at a big club with expectations is hardly a ringing endorsement for him taking on another pressure job. He might be a better coach now than in 2009, but still...'"
2009 is a very long time ago to be fair
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"More than likely but as in most cases the minority shout louder than the majority. There has to be a reason behind the quality of NRL players Leeds are able to attract these days?
This is the by far the biggest club in SL but that is not reflected in the quality of player it attracts from the NRL:
Miller - 29 - played 19 games in the NRL
Momirovski - 27 - played 60 NRL games with 5 different clubs
Faustitua - 29 - played 108 games - had significant injury problems which is a factor in the warriors let him go
Frawley - 29 - 50 games in NRL - was a disaster at the Giants - why?
Lisone 30 - 120 NRL games
Is this the best Leeds can attract - if so why?'"
The quality of all imports from the NRL to SL has fallen off a cliff
Theres a lot of luck now involved imo
Theyre either old and at the end of their career or younger and not getting into nrl sides
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| Quote ="Zoo Zoo Boom"The quality isn't there - and until we can attract better players especially in the forwards these struggles will continue. Add to the lack of playing quality with an even worse coaching set up and we have what we see each week. No quality, no fluency, no ideas and no structure. You can't make donkey's into thoroughbreds.'"
Who would you retain?
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| Quote ="Theeaststander1"Rohan smith has left Leeds rhinos, this will be announced later today
An offer has been tabled for Steve McNamara'"
I hope that second part is wrong
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| He has done a good job with Catalans but could see him being a disaster if he came to Leeds.
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| Mickey Mac assistant as defence coach (imagine)
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"Who would you retain?'"
HANDLEY
CROFT
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OCONNER
OLEDSKI
MARTIN
BENTLEY
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MCDONELL
SMITH
WATTON
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SIMPSON
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| Quote ="ploinerrhino"HANDLEY
CROFT
ACKERS
OCONNER
OLEDSKI
MARTIN
BENTLEY
SINFIELD
MCDONELL
SMITH
WATTON
EDGELL
SIMPSON'"
That would mean getting rid of about 15 players from the squad?
It’s not viable and would set us back further
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| Why ain't he scarpered yet!!
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"Who would you retain?'"
Handley
Newman but with a big boot up his backside
Edgell
Mik - another who needs to improve
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Smith - but not as a ball playing 13
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| Quote ="christopher"The quality of all imports from the NRL to SL has fallen off a cliff
Theres a lot of luck now involved imo
Theyre either old and at the end of their career or younger and not getting into nrl sides'"
Compare to Saints;
Blake 178 NRL first grade games
Hurrell 117 NRL first Grade games
Mbye 198 NRL first Grade games
Paasi 109 NRL first Grade games
Sironen 133 NRL first Grade games
Mata’utia 125 NRL first Grade games
Bell 2 NRL first grade games
… okay Bell is an outlier, but it’s a myth you can’t sign experienced NRL players.
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| Rohan Smith took control of the first team training session as normal this morning, I've been told Paul Rowley however has been contacted regarding the head coaches position and that Rowley has been in contact with his former players Brodie Croft & Andy Ackers over the last week or so. Everyone knows Rohan is pretty much gone it's just a matter of time with the next game being dedicated to Rob Burrow and MND awareness it could maybe keep Rohan Smith in place until after this game and going into the international break the week after we could have a new coach at the helm whether it's Rowley or someone else only time will tell.
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| If RS is still in charge and Fridays performance is anything like that on Saturday then the atmosphere will turn. If RS is on borrowed time it makes little sense to keep him across next weekend. Of course, a repeat of Saturday will, or should, also turn the spotlight onto the players too.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"Rohan Smith took control of the first team training session as normal this morning, I've been told Paul Rowley however has been contacted regarding the head coaches position and that Rowley has been in contact with his former players Brodie Croft & Andy Ackers over the last week or so. Everyone knows Rohan is pretty much gone it's just a matter of time with the next game being dedicated to Rob Burrow and MND awareness it could maybe keep Rohan Smith in place until after this game and going into the international break the week after we could have a new coach at the helm whether it's Rowley or someone else only time will tell.'"
Thanks for the update. Hope this happens ASAP.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"I hope that second part is wrong'"
I hope so too.
He is one coach I would not want at HQ and don`t think for one minute he will get too much out of our current squad.
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| Quote ="rugbyleague88"He has done a good job with Catalans but could see him being a disaster if he came to Leeds.'"
With plenty of financial clout thrown at the squad.
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| Quote ="chapylad"I hope so too.
He is one coach I would not want at HQ and don`t think for one minute he will get too much out of our current squad.'" I would find it very difficult to go and watch Leeds with McNamara in charge.
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| McNamara wouldn't be any kind of statement either. Rowley would, at least internally, because players would know he'd have the backing of Blease. But if we're going to make a change we need to try and get the absolute best we can. If that's Rowley then fine, but I'd at least talk to Arthur and test the waters around the NRL for other potential coaches as well, because we cannot afford to screw this up again. If we get it wrong we'll be having these same arguments in two years.
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| Quote ="Jrrhino"Rohan Smith took control of the first team training session as normal this morning.'"
Must have been a historic occasion as it does not look like he has ever done this before.
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| Quote ="YosemiteSam"If RS is still in charge and Fridays performance is anything like that on Saturday then the atmosphere will turn. If RS is on borrowed time it makes little sense to keep him across next weekend. Of course, a repeat of Saturday will, or should, also turn the spotlight onto the players too.'"
If those fans can’t control themselves for one game dedicated to Rob then I despair.
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