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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"I don't think there's been much ridiculing of anyone except of people who have held on to the hope Smith could turn things around.
Looking at Leeds Live and even Peter Smith in the YEP its hard to see anything other than Rohan moving on. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays the week though. I get the issue of becoming the focus of negativity on the day to remember Rob Burrow, but if he quits/is sacked before that game it would make the coach the focus of the run up to the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if GH steps in to read the riot act to players regardless. They need to be on notice - now is not the time to be putting in a half-d performance, even if they want a new coach.'"
GH went straight into the changing room with the players and smith and locked the door apparently
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| The thought of another "performance full of promise" like yesterday on Friday makes me shudder. At least if Smith has gone and the players stink the place out again there's just likely to be some disappointment rather than vitriol which would be horrible on such an important occasion.
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| Quote ="Broadacres"The thought of another "performance full of promise" like yesterday on Friday makes me shudder. At least if Smith has gone and the players stink the place out again there's just likely to be some disappointment rather than vitriol which would be horrible on such an important occasion.'"
I would hope that even if Smith is still in post people could moderate themselves on Friday, there’s no need for the abuse at such an occasion.
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| Very true Christopher. I'd say GH will mark the cards of players if they dish out garbage in the next match.
Its also odd that when players turn against the coach a lot of them are acting like turkeys wishing for Christmas. Where exactly do some of them think they'll go if the club decides they are part of the problem? For a fair few it will be forever the lower reaches of SL or the Championship after Leeds.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"I actually think celebrating Rob is the part of the reason Rohan should be gone before Leigh. Another dire performance and the subsequent unrest and atmosphere it would cause when we should be celebrating the great man….no thank you. He deserves better imo.'"
Totally agree. Can you imagine all the emotion and passion and then watch a bunch of wage thieves run round like headless chickens while Leigh laugh their socks off against a bunch of pussies.
It would make the whole occasion a farce exposing Hetherington even more as the incompetent recruiter.
Blease needs to be told to sack Smith on Monday and start as you mean to go on. No sentiment whatsoever.
I would rather see one of the serving ladies from catering being given a chance than have to listen to the incoherent ramblings of Smith one more time.
He will never be a coach while he has a hole in his backside
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| Quote ="Bobtownrhino"Totally agree. Can you imagine all the emotion and passion and then watch a bunch of wage thieves run round like headless chickens while Leigh laugh their socks off against a bunch of pussies.
It would make the whole occasion a farce exposing Hetherington even more as the incompetent recruiter.
Blease needs to be told to sack Smith on Monday and start as you mean to go on. No sentiment whatsoever.
I would rather see one of the serving ladies from catering being given a chance than have to listen to the incoherent ramblings of Smith one more time.
He will never be a coach while he has a hole in his backside'"
Blease needs to make his own decision and not be told anything otherwise his position is undermined from the start.
If supporters want to make it all about what they want on Friday that’s up to them but maybe they should give it a rest for one game and think about the bigger picture
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| Given that on more than one occasion this season the performance has the appearance of players having just met in the car park before the game and those with their boots get to play, can anyone offer any insight as to how often we actually train. I've heard this morning from a source with no reason to make things up that it's 3 mornings per week. Surely that cannot be right, though it would explain much.
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| Quote ="Seth"I'm still intrigued Christopher, Jim, leedsbarmyarmy et al, when you were scoffing t the criticism of RS and insisting that we were a much different team to last year, that we're progressing, what on earth were you watching?!'"
Mate, your I told you so / look at me I was right posts after every defeat are childish and cringey.
Last year we weren’t great but we also had loads of injuries and an unsettled team. I was happy to give him a chance with his players he signed and hopefully a better run of injuries and there were signs of improvement and potential but it hasn’t worked out.
Congrats on your predictions
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| let's not pretend that we wouldn't have been invited to eat our own words had we been doing well at this point.
Thanks for the congratulations, though to be fair I think it wasn't much of a prediction and genuinely, I'm not sure what you were watching 'mate'.
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| This forum has always been a battle between the miserable sods, and the happy clappers. Even when we were good, this place was the same.
It's an Internet message board, who cares if you're right or wrong? Go out and try to enjoy your life.
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| Quote ="Seth"icon_lol.gif let's not pretend that we wouldn't have been invited to eat our own words had we been doing well at this point.
Thanks for the congratulations, though to be fair I think it wasn't much of a prediction and genuinely, I'm not sure what you were watching 'mate'.'"
Probably not, I don’t care about point scoring against people on the internet.
I’ll put my point across which is generally a positive spin, as that my general outlook on life. If you don’t think there was any positive potential at the start of the season that’s fine, would be boring if we all had the same opinions
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| I think the bigger picture for Friday is we can’t have another pathetic half ar$ed showing from Leeds on such an occasion. Rohan needs to be gone, as we need a team playing with heart and passion on Friday in memory of Burrow.
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| If any any players are half d on Friday they are done. DONE.
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| But just remember the players are human and things like what’s happened to Rob will affect people in different ways. That’s not me making excuses in advance or for yesterday, I’m just pointing out it’s easy to judge from the sidelines when the reality of these situations aren’t always clear cut.
I didn’t particularly think yesterday’s performance was half d it just wasn’t good. Mik for example was trying too hard, look at his stats!
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| Another 2 weeks to prep, refresh and refocus and yet again we turn in a clueless disasterclass.
I don’t even know why I’m actually surprised, we’ve been dire pretty much all season, all the early season optimism has evaporated as the same lazy, shortcut vibes rugby yet again proves to be our undoing. Not one player in that team is looking or playing to their potential as it’s just an unstructured joke of a system.
This Friday is all about Rob and despite seething on that travesty yesterday we need to park this for one game, circle the wagons and come together for the great man.
There was a terrible atmosphere at that game yesterday, some very strange people who I’ve never seen at Rhinos games before at the centre of most the unpleasantness. I understand that we differ on opinions etc but turning on each other isn’t the way to go.
Friday is all about Rob & the Burrow family period.
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| The last two games at Hull have turned really toxic. We won the first game and lost the other by one try.
A few round me (the more mature end of the market in age…) were getting annoyed again, saying it’s not helping.
Just left bemused about whether some of our play, or the fickle angry mob of a fan base were more embarrassing.
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| There were some weird scenes on Saturday and it looked to me like quite a few were tanked up but people have a right to call for Smith to be sacked.
In terms of embarrassing behaviour I think at least one of our players deliberately dialled it in on Saturday . I reckon 2 did but 1 of them was less obvious.
I won’t name them but when Smith goes , they both need a Scarborough warning from the new coach.
On that front I’d have Wane as first choice as new coach , he may not want it but most of this team need a strong coach who tells them what he wants and takes no Sh1t
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| I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.
I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.
RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.
I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.
RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.'"
Id much prefer Brad Arthur over Wane. I think he'd be a better fit for us.
I reckon Smith will actually go on to do well somewhere in the future, which is why I don’t like the whole ‘fraud’ thing
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I’m not a fan of unfettered “rights” but that’s a conversation we’ve seen before.
I wouldn’t mind Wane too much to be honest, but I’d prefer Arthur if RS goes. Arthur seemed very popular and we’re going to need some personal collateral to get some key NRL signings over the line IMO. We also have a young squad and I think an older mentor figure will work better than a younger coach.
RS looks to have taken on the Leeds job a little too soon in his development to me.'"
Not sure I know what “unfettered” rights are but calling for a coach to be sacked is just freedom of speech to me, especially when IMO he should have been removed with GH last year.
Anyway, I agree we need an older experienced coach who is a good man manager. My lad wants it to be Brad Arthur as well.
Personally, I don’t, I think he is a good coach but I think we need a coach players fear and respect more than he brings. But that is just my view from a long distance
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| Quote ="christopher"Id much prefer Brad Arthur over Wane. I think he'd be a better fit for us.
I reckon Smith will actually go on to do well somewhere in the future, which is why I don’t like the whole ‘fraud’ thing'"
Arthur has to be in the Leeds thought process you would think yes.
I don’t take any pleasure out of saying that RS looks boxed into a corner. I expected us to win against Hull quite well with the side we had… too many now out of form or not up to standard.
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| Quote ="Sir Gregory ParsloeP"Not sure I know what “unfettered” rights are but calling for a coach to be sacked is just freedom of speech to me, especially when IMO he should have been removed with GH last year.
Anyway, I agree we need an older experienced coach who is a good man manager. My lad wants it to be Brad Arthur as well.
Personally, I don’t, I think he is a good coach but I think we need a coach players fear and respect more than he brings. But that is just my view from a long distance'"
Doesn’t RS have a right to do a tough job without mobs baying for his head? Or other fans have rights to attend games without a beered up gang acting and chanting aggressively? I take my 5 year old, what about his rights to feel safe?
One person’s rights often infringe on another’s (e.g. right to protest) - how about we consider the impact of our actions on other people? Maybe have manners?
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"Doesn’t RS have a right to do a tough job without mobs baying for his head? Or other fans have rights to attend games without a beered up gang acting and chanting aggressively? I take my 5 year old, what about his rights to feel safe?
One person’s rights often infringe on another’s (e.g. right to protest) - how about we consider the impact of our actions on other people? Maybe have manners?'"
I disagree completely with the beered up mob having a go at each other but it’s a game of rugby league . Paying fans have a right to call for a coach to go , I think if people want to shout we want Rohan out that’s fair enough.
I also completely disagree with personal abuse on social media.
On Smith I agree with what Arthur saidI’m sure he has done his best and done it his way but like a boxer on the ropes he needs saving from further punishment.
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"
I don’t take any pleasure out of saying that RS looks boxed into a corner. I expected us to win against Hull quite well with the side we had… too many now out of form or not up to standard.'"
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| I'd be amazed if Brad Arthur left Aus. He'll just bide his time for a top job in Aus. Think Leeds would/should be looking at top assistants, someone like Josh Hannay or Dean Young
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