Kylie looks to have lost some serious bulk and he seems the victim of a change in training methods aimed an making Leeds a lighweight quick unit, which makes the 20 mins stint even more puzzling.

Its very similar to that of Tony Smith in 2006 when he copied the West Tigers who had just one the NRL comp.

i mentioned the weight loss a few weeks back. it has really affected kylie. looks a shadow of last years player

Maybe that and the rumour he has had his head turned by Wigan, I also aren't sure Bluey has the fogiest idea how to utilise the players he has.

1 poor pass I can remember.

The thing is we look a lot more dangerous once he enters the action. His passes are in front of the man giving us an extra half second to do something whereas Diskins are usualy fired into the chest (thats not a critisism btw as most players over here do that).

buderus was our best player again for me!! has to play 80 mins or from the start in the first spell!!

Have to echo what has been said, Burderus is looking better with every game.

Surely he should be in line for a start.

For catalan's i think we should go with..
Webb
Donald
Gibson
Senior
Hall
Mcguire
Burrow
Kirke
Buderus
Peacock
Jjb
Ali
Sinfield

Burgess
Worrall
Kylie/bailey
Mcshane

I personally think diskin and ablett need a rest/dropping and it's a toss up for me who misse's out between kylie and bailey.
I thought kirke did well at prop v giant's who like the catalans have a big pack.
I'd also start with Ali to give us more threat and hopefully momentum early rather than hoping he can change it from the bench.
I know other's could be dropped/rested but that's what i'd go with.

positive last night was i didnt need a pee halfway through the first half

Buderus, JP and Kirke, and Donald to some extent.

The first three worked their balls off.

Wilsons Pie and Peas were again fantastic, and it was all down hill from there.

Quins have plenty of positives, possibly the most solidest centre pairing in Super League. The envy.

Buderus was our best last night IMO. Now he is regaining full fitness he is starting to show the form we know he is capable of.
Regarding Kylie. He is suffering more than most from only having a 3/4 week pre season due to the world cup. A player who even when fully fit is not capable of long stints like Peacock,he is really suffering this year. Last night he did 11 mins in the 1st half and 14 in the 2nd. Thats putting added pressure on the rest of the pack who also look jaded. I think this will improve as the season goes on.
Keep the faith

Unlike the 4 pint each brigade i was next to last night.

Buderus was MOM for me. Donald's length of the field scamper shows he still has the pace and hopefully will be a much needed confidence boost.

Webb was steady enough and Hall is showing some good form and attitude, and that was about it for last night.

I thought the Quins defence was excellent, their line was ruler straight and they all stepped up as one.

Taking the ball back into the ruck time after time?

I think the mileage is beginning to show and its time for Peacock to get a well deserved rest..............shame we don't have the points in the bag to allow it!

I'm a tad concerned that this year will be a repeat of 2006 for Peacock - carrying the pack for most of the year and so running out of steam towards the back end.

Saints lost too.

Theres your positive!

if that really is the case, why not 'rest'(drop) him for a few weeks.

I really don't understand this, The St Helens players look a lot bigger physically than most of the Rhinos players and come out on top when it comes to go forward, Maybe the Lightweight is to enable us to be fresh and peak at the back end of the season...

Bradford winning is rarely a positive but last night it would have been had Leeds remembered to show up.



St Helens unveiling their new 5th tackle option was the major positive from last night. A contender for play of the season so soon after Ricki Sheriffe looked to have the award all sown up.

Is their new 5th tackle option pass it back drop it pass it back drop it ad infinitum?

I said just the same somewhere a bit earlier!

I guess you'll start attending now you've had a few good wins?

He was rested last week but still seems way short of been fully match fit.
I thought it a strange decision from BM to state that he intended to give the forwards a rest when possible, to then omit Burgess this week only to play him in the reserves. If we are going to rotate the props, then a rest should surely mean a week without playing a game, not turning out for the 2nd team.

I think I've said somewhere on here,

Pass it Barnstoneworth..... get it away Barnstoneworth..... oh Barnstoneworth.

Different sport but does the trick for any Ripping Yarn fans out there.

So the others didn't


I would say it's more to the fact we are not playing well rather than lack of effort.