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| No aggression
No Leadership
No pace
No Size
No long time recruitment plan where we get the best of the best available.Like we used to when Dean Bell recruited the goldens.
Limited skill but no overall game plan but with the squad you have available the best of the best Aussie coaches could not polish this turd.
Hope our new Director of rugby is given the full Autonomy to do his job.
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| Who would be interim/caretaker manager these days for us? Not JJB... mind you, he can't do a worse job...
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| Quote ="FGB"Blease said he won't be rushed into making decisions.
But I predict Rohan will be gone by Wednesday.'"
If it takes Blease that long to sack him , maybe he should go as well
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| We’ve won 3 of our last 10 games, how is he still there?
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| The only reason he's still there is because of the DoR appointment. That bought him some time, but it seems fairly clear that the players have given up on him as a fair few look like they aren't even trying to play well any more. He may have one more week as I doubt the club will want to take any attention away from celebrating Burrow next home game.
I wouldn't be surprised if they turn in a good (or at least much better) performance because of Rob, but if anything that will expose that the players are no longer playing for the coach, and its hard to see this season not just collapsing in a heap if he stays.
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| They will keep him because of Burrow
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| There’s no doubt we were terrible today, and have been pretty poor all season, and for the past several seasons. I know this will be controversial on this forum, but the bottom line is that the problem isn’t mainly the coach - the players just aren’t good enough. Only one or two of current squad would have made the team during our golden period. Plenty of us will say that this team is largely recruited by RS, and that’s true. However, in a salary capped sport and when we’ve been so poor for so long, how can we expect to attract the best players? The bottom line is that we need top class young players to progress through the ranks just as they did in the early 2000s. Well then be able to attract decent and established players, just as during our Golden period. I think Ian Blease first priority should be sorting out the youth pipeline, not the coach.
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| You can’t just solve things with the players and recruitment. The head coach is a hugely important role and hugely influential. We have some talented players and some talented young players but Smith cannot get them playing well nor have we seen any young player improve under Smith. You have to get the head coach right as they will set the club on the right path
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| There's no way we can afford to leave Smith in place and wait years for juniors to come through. You can't attract the best players, even juniors, if the first team is a joke.
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"The only reason he's still there is because of the DoR appointment. That bought him some time, but it seems fairly clear that the players have given up on him as a fair few look like they aren't even trying to play well any more. He may have one more week as I doubt the club will want to take any attention away from celebrating Burrow next home game.
I wouldn't be surprised if they turn in a good (or at least much better) performance because of Rob, but if anything that will expose that the players are no longer playing for the coach, and its hard to see this season not just collapsing in a heap if he stays.'"
I actually think celebrating Rob is the part of the reason Rohan should be gone before Leigh. Another dire performance and the subsequent unrest and atmosphere it would cause when we should be celebrating the great man….no thank you. He deserves better imo.
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| Quote ="Rommel"Again what do you see in Oledski?'"
He’s suffered with being the defacto pack leader of a club whose history is blighted with having a weak pack. Way before GH took over, this was the case. Turned around, in spectacular fashion by the ‘statement’ signing of Barrie McDermott, then the mo monsterous side under Graham Murray.
Even Tony Smith, after the 2004 pack’s dominance, accepted his fate, and tried to implement the team full of middles, ahead of the game.
Tom holroyd and Oledski shouid have a few experienced old props around them.it’s gross negligence. I’ll spell check this in the morning, possibly delete the whole thing if it’s too incoherent.
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| I think people are too defensive of Oledzki. He's not terrible, but he is not and never will be a pack leader. He just doesn't have that mongrel in him. Holroyd could be a big plus but he seems all over the place this season, not helped by injuries.
The other props are worse - Sangare plays like a big pudding, Lisone is the flattest of flat track bullies, and Goudemand isn't big enough. Hudson was a hit and hope signing, and so far a complete dud as backup - not his fault we signed someone who was already injured. After that we've played Donaldson, who is only a prop nowadays because he's too slow for the back row, and he started the first game of the season. Our prop rotation must be close to the worst in the league on paper, let alone when they actually play.
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| Quote ="Barrie’s Glass Eye"I actually think celebrating Rob is the part of the reason Rohan should be gone before Leigh. Another dire performance and the subsequent unrest and atmosphere it would cause when we should be celebrating the great man….no thank you. He deserves better imo.'"
I agree whole heartedly.. The next game should be about celebrating Robs achievements on and off the pitch. The inevitable booing of Rohan the fraud shouldn't be a thing. He needs removing from the premises before the game.
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| I'm still intrigued Christopher, Jim, leedsbarmyarmy et al, when you were scoffing t the criticism of RS and insisting that we were a much different team to last year, that we're progressing, what on earth were you watching?!
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| Just get him gone. He’s destroying us. Who cares who’s currently available.
The softball questions and easy ride in press conferences is really starting to annoy me.
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| It’s unbelievable that as of this moment he is still at the club, I can’t believe he hasn’t been sacked yet.
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| Quote ="Seth"I'm still intrigued Christopher, Jim, leedsbarmyarmy et al, when you were scoffing t the criticism of RS and insisting that we were a much different team to last year, that we're progressing, what on earth were you watching?!'"
Don’t think ‘scoffing’ is fair, i honestly could see improvement at the start of the year, however we have started to go backwards rapidly so it’s clear something is drastically wrong. I’m perfectly happy to accept my faith looks to have been misplaced.
I do however still maintain the overall set up is better than when smith started, but it clearly isn’t manifesting into the first team performances and Smith will ultimately pay the price for that.
Blease has an open goal here to instantly endear himself to the fan base.
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| The chat on sky after the f at Hull was Tony Smith saying Rohan should be given more time and I would agree IF there had been an improvement of the basic skills since he took over . But the players he trains are getting worse. Leeds didn't win anything for years but where competitive. And that is the difference. We don't need to win silverware every year but we do need to be in the top 4.
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| Quote ="Smithout"The chat on sky after the f at Hull was Tony Smith saying Rohan should be given more time and I would agree IF there had been an improvement of the basic skills since he took over . But the players he trains are getting worse. Leeds didn't win anything for years but where competitive. And that is the difference. We don't need to win silverware every year but we do need to be in the top 4.'"
I thought it was unfair on TS to be honest, he’s not going to go on live TV and criticise his family.
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| I think 'scoffing' is putting it mildly, there were shades of ridicule at times. The distance between what some though the progress smith was making with the team and where we actually are is monumental. I cant see where we made any visible progress even earlier in the season. Some of the signings have been a disaster too and even miller is way off what we need to be anywhere near the top. Contact extrensions to Sangare, fus and lisone just add insult to the whole sorry mess.
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| Quote ="christopher"I thought it was unfair on TS to be honest, he’s not going to go on live TV and criticise his family.'"
True but sky keep saying Leeds fans don't move on from the golden generation but we have had to. As I said most fans want a competitive team. And we are light years way from that. Not one game in in two years have they put in a good 40 let alone 80. If we where competitive I would have no complaints.
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| Quote ="Seth"I think 'scoffing' is putting it mildly, there were shades of ridicule at times. The distance between what some though the progress smith was making with the team and where we actually are is monumental. I cant see where we made any visible progress even earlier in the season. Some of the signings have been a disaster too and even miller is way off what we need to be anywhere near the top. Contact extrensions to Sangare, fus and lisone just add insult to the whole sorry mess.'"
I don’t think I've ever ridiculed anyone on here, in fact the ridiculing on here is why i don’t post as often or use the forum as much.
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| Quote ="Seth"I think 'scoffing' is putting it mildly, there were shades of ridicule at times. The distance between what some though the progress smith was making with the team and where we actually are is monumental. I cant see where we made any visible progress even earlier in the season. Some of the signings have been a disaster too and even miller is way off what we need to be anywhere near the top. Contact extrensions to Sangare, fus and lisone just add insult to the whole sorry mess.'"
I don’t think I've ever ridiculed anyone on here, in fact the ridiculing on here is why i don’t post as often or use the forum as much.
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| Quote ="christopher"I don’t think I've ever ridiculed anyone on here, in fact the ridiculing on here is why i don’t post as often or use the forum as much.'"
That’s exactly what someone guilty of ridiculing others would say
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| I don't think there's been much ridiculing of anyone except of people who have held on to the hope Smith could turn things around.
Looking at Leeds Live and even Peter Smith in the YEP its hard to see anything other than Rohan moving on. I wouldn't be surprised if he stays the week though. I get the issue of becoming the focus of negativity on the day to remember Rob Burrow, but if he quits/is sacked before that game it would make the coach the focus of the run up to the game.
I wouldn't be surprised if GH steps in to read the riot act to players regardless. They need to be on notice - now is not the time to be putting in a half-d performance, even if they want a new coach.
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