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| How long is this situation going to continue about these new ground developments going to continue? I wonder if they are exploring the option of selling up and moving out ?
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"That's it - all of the problems at Leeds, minimal as they are by the standards of most clubs, can be traced back to management being distracted by the foundation's heritage number project
'" It equals money well spent on freebies/recruiting holidays he takes at our expense. Also no florida trip is another cut-back. Top crowds top merchandise sales no recruitment over to you gh see if you can talk youre way out of this crap. After youre hols of course!
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| If someone has got a sit down ticket in one of the other stands (as the SS wasn't available), would they swap and refund the difference to make it back to a South Stand ticket.
That would test to see if they are a shower-of-e.
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It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
The delays could be disastrous on both sides of the ground.
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It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
The delays could be disastrous on both sides of the ground.
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| Quote ="FGB"Another day, another gotcha classic'"
Jelousy seems to get to you. No need for it mate, I was not looking for jelousy.
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| Called them this morning and switched back to the South Stand. WHOS WITH ME!!!
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Jelousy seems to get to you. No need for it mate, I was not looking for jelousy.'"
it might help if you could spell jealousy
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| Jealousy?? More like entertainment value
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| Quote ="FGB"Jealousy?? More like entertainment value
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Well you seem to have some problem, that seems to irk you whenever posted.
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Quote ="Old Feller"It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
The delays could be disastrous on both sides of the ground.'" Nice bit of political pressure being applied by YCCC.
From Leeds' point of view, the redevelopment is important but the timing is not particularly critical (although the club will lose financially if Yorkshire miss out on big games). As far as the core business goes, the present arrangement works OK for as long as it needs to. Sure they want to do it and indeed Hetherington and Caddick view it as a legacy thing and probably won't exit the club until the project is completed. And obviously they aren't too keen on continuing to incur the cost of making do and mending the current two stands. But it isn't fundamental to the business like it is to Yorkshire; this is perhaps why their press release is altogether more anguished than the Leeds one.
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Quote ="Old Feller"It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
The delays could be disastrous on both sides of the ground.'" Nice bit of political pressure being applied by YCCC.
From Leeds' point of view, the redevelopment is important but the timing is not particularly critical (although the club will lose financially if Yorkshire miss out on big games). As far as the core business goes, the present arrangement works OK for as long as it needs to. Sure they want to do it and indeed Hetherington and Caddick view it as a legacy thing and probably won't exit the club until the project is completed. And obviously they aren't too keen on continuing to incur the cost of making do and mending the current two stands. But it isn't fundamental to the business like it is to Yorkshire; this is perhaps why their press release is altogether more anguished than the Leeds one.
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Quote ="Old Feller"It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
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The north stand on the cricket side will get built it just will not include the rugby side
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Quote ="Old Feller"It seems to me that whoever the club uses as it's planning consultant badly underestimated the level of opposition to the building of houses on the two plots of land that were to provide the balance of the funding.
https://yorkshireccc.com/news/view/5249 ... ment-delay
The delays could be disastrous on both sides of the ground.'"
The north stand on the cricket side will get built it just will not include the rugby side
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"The north stand on the cricket side will get built it just will not include the rugby side'" Impossible to do as the two are inter-linked structurally. You couldn't demolish the cricket side without destroying a load of Leeds property and you certainly couldn't attach the cricket roof to the existing RL stand even if it was somehow still able to stand up on its own.
If it came down to Yorkshire being ready to go but Leeds not having got the associated permission that effectively funds half their total development, Leeds would just have to do the north stand first and leave the south stand as a future project. The rebuilding period would be painful without the extra seating in the South Stand but they would have to find a way to make it work.
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| Yes, I'd imagine YCC would far rather release a statement to the effect that their part of the redevelopment would go ahead, were that the case. As it stands, the statement they've put out hardly reinforces the impression of a strong bidding position for future tests. Which is something they'd otherwise be looking to nurture.
Now, who was the great-crested newt-loving member of this board who was so opposed to development of land owned by the rugby operation?
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| Is the SS still about the fall down, can't remember what happened when they did the minimum remedial work needed a couple of years ago?
Just wondering out loud how long they can put off the redevelopment of the SS?
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| It's not going well at HQ at the moment is it.
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| At least they haven't knocked down all that side (just the corner). That would have spelled the end.
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| Shambolic or cynical, I can't tell which, but it doesn't reflect well on the club.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"What?
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What? What?
What's is that a former double glazing salesman and bricklayer believe they can acquire green space land and then flog it for property development purposes.
For starters, it's illegal to sell off designated green space land for anything other than remaining designated green space land without the dodgy, and arguably criminal complicity of a range of potential dodgy professionals like lawyers, council chiefs and planning officers for instance who may, or may not in some instances, be allegedly swayed by the surreptitious acquisition of the contents unofficially sanctioned brown envelopes.
Then there's the not insubstantial issue of dealing with close to a thousand extremely irate middle and upper middle class folk who reside in Weetwood and elsewhere, who sit on lots of local, civic committees, who have all submitted objections to plans to sell off valuable green space which isn't Leeds C.F & A's to sell, other than for the purpose of remaining a green space area.
The former double glazing salesman and bricklayer have underestimated the power of that particular middle and upper middle class bourgeois demographic because they are used to dealing with those who wouldn't know how to organise any resistance if their lives depended upon it - e.g., Rhinos fans whose opinions rarely stretch beyond grovelling subservience to the aforementioned former double glazing salesman in particular.
YCCC can go do one as well.
The Leeds C.F & A company need to fund the new stands another way. After all, they are the best run club in Super League who make regular profits... aren't they? With manageable liabilities? Aren't they?
How many shelved redevopments of both north and south stands has there been during the past decade? So many that a number of fans here would be incapable of countng that high
Tetley Field Opposition Residents by plenty!
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| This just smacks of a MD who lacks the experience and knowledge to deliver what the club needs for its long term survival.
GH appears to have learned nothing from previous failed attempts at stadium redevelopment - this is not the first muted development of the SS under his tenure.
As I have said before Kevin Sinfield made a lot of people in the organisation look a lot better than they actually are - perhaps GH should have felt so threatened when KS suggested he wanted to move into sports administration. He could really do with some quality acolytes right now.
The "last game in SS stuff" is cynical - the actions of a man who is in beyond his capabilities and who should see this an opportunity to depart with his reputation mostly intact.
Some on here have suggested Leeds could be the next Bradford Bulls - if next season is anything like last they could be correct.
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| Quote ="Sal Paradise"
Some on here have suggested Leeds could be the next Bradford Bulls - if next season is anything like last they could be correct.'"
Bit melodramatic at this stage to be making those predictions isn't it?
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"Bit melodramatic at this stage to be making those predictions isn't it?'"
Melodramatic is most people's go to state on here like so many with yesterday's events with there "stop the planet I want to get off" melodramatic cringeworthy mourning.
It's the same poster who accused GH of knowing we would be terrible in 2011 so deliberately set McClennen up to be the fall guy with McDermott waiting in the wings but McClennen was too smart for GH and knew the squad was doomed to fail and he was being set up.....they only went on to win the GF and subsequent WCC of course.
Now not only is Sinfield solely responsible for the on field success, he's solely responsible for the off field success of the club too. Quite frankly after seeing Peacock at HKR I think it's good that our ex players go cut their teeth elsewhere first in their post playing careers.
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