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| Quote ="G1"Oh I am sure Matt is very pleased with the attendance. I doubt very much he would grumble. I am sure you're right that we have the type of players who will take more from yet another great night at Old Trafford than they would care about the attendance at their testimonial match. Then again, we have players of the right sort of character, not the kind of players who would bet on their own team to lose.'"
How very relevant past Saints players are to this subject.
Quote ="G1"But that misses the point. Its' about us, not them and its' about us rewarding the loyalty they have shown that has benefited us in our support for this great team.'"
The Leeds supporters have been pretty loyal themselves over the years with very little to show for it until recently. Labouring the success angle is a bit daft as I don't see how a player who has won trophies is any more worthy of a testimonial than a player who has been just as committed and won nothing.
Quote ="G1"They are jolly well paid but I can assure you its' actually quite factual that the club have a strict pay grade that they do not exceed for any player. That every player can climb the grade and if they reach the correct value to the team they will be paid at the top of the grade. That players who remain in this system could earn more by moving on. That players come into this system and earn less than they could by signing elsewhere.'"
Every club has a salary cap and Matt Diskin isn't the sort of player a club spending full cap would throw money at. I don't know when Matt last signed a contract but if it was before his bad injury, he may even command less elsewhere. I'm sure Danny Buderus is doing OK as a hooker within the Rhinos pay structure, although I guess he's on less than Matt given that he has contributed less to the Rhinos cause.
People show their appreciation and support in different ways, there is no supporter bible that states you have to hand cash directly to players if you think they have served the club well, they are professionals and are paid for what they do.
Again, I don't necessarily disagree with testimonials and I think Matt thoroughly deserves one, but people have the right to decide whether they want or are able to give him a bonus from their own pocket when they already pay his wages through supporting the club and for many people those wages are probably more than they themselves earn anyway.
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| Quote ="G1"They all had the choice. They had the choice to do the right thing or the wrong thing. Most of our pathetic fan base chose the wrong thing.'"
There you go again. Only word is pathetic to describe your attitude.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"How very relevant past Saints players are to this subject.
'" They're not. It was a cheap jibe but one I enjoyed making nonetheless.
Quote The Leeds supporters have been pretty loyal themselves over the years with very little to show for it until recently. Labouring the success angle is a bit daft as I don't see how a player who has won trophies is any more worthy of a testimonial than a player who has been just as committed and won nothing.'" Indeed. Myself included. There were hardly any players during the 1980's and 1990s that showed the required loyalty to acheive a testimonial at Leeds. Co-Incidentally, virtuall a trophy-less two decades.
Quote Every club has a salary cap and Matt Diskin isn't the sort of player a club spending full cap would throw money at. I don't know when Matt last signed a contract but if it was before his bad injury, he may even command less elsewhere. I'm sure Danny Buderus is doing OK as a hooker within the Rhinos pay structure, although I guess he's on less than Matt given that he has contributed less to the Rhinos cause.'" In your opinion but then again as he's not James Roby or Keiron Cunningham I doubt you would see the value in a player like Matt. Over the last 6 seasons there have hardly been any better hookers in the comp. He's got a harry Sunderland as well as 4 Sl rings so I imagine on the open market he could do quite well for himself. I am sure you would disagree but, then again, Saints fans on here rarely rate any of our players.
Quote People show their appreciation and support in different ways, there is no supporter bible that states you have to hand cash directly to players if you think they have served the club well, they are professionals and are paid for what they do.'" Of course there isn't. I never said there was. people need to use their own moral compass. I know which way mine was pointing Sunday.
Quote Again, I don't necessarily disagree with testimonials and I think Matt thoroughly deserves one, but people have the right to decide whether they want or are able to give him a bonus from their own pocket when they already pay his wages through supporting the club and for many people those wages are probably more than they themselves earn anyway.'" But they don't pay his wages. Not at a big time operation like Leeds they don't.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"There you go again. Only word is pathetic to describe your attitude.'"
There you go again with personal attacks and insults. All of your posts on this thread aimed at me have contained them. Yet I have risen above it. You know why? Its' a sign I have won the argument. Not that I needed a sign. The second your responded I don't think there was ever any doubt I would win the argument. I think its' BEEN a forgone conclusion from the outset.
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| Quote ="G1"There you go again with personal attacks and insults. All of your posts on this thread aimed at me have contained them. Yet I have risen above it. You know why? Its' a sign I have won the argument. Not that I needed a sign. The second your responded I don't think there was ever any doubt I would win the argument. I think its' BEEN a forgone conclusion from the outset.'"
You lost it long ago mate. You are just further demonstrating your little man syndrome again now.
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| Quote ="G1"But they don't pay his wages. Not at a big time operation like Leeds they don't.'"
I don't really understand that point. I haven't ever looked at Leeds' accounts but they really must be a big time operation operation if they can run the club and spend full cap without selling a single ticket/shirt/beer/burger/etc.
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| Turnover approached £11 million last year.
We're pretty frikkin awesome at Headingley Carnegie doncha know.
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| The attendance at the Bradford game is dissapointing, but what was worse was last year at JJB's testimonial when there was nearly more Hull FC fans than Leeds fans.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The attendance at the Bradford game is dissapointing, but what was worse was last year at JJB's testimonial when there was nearly more Hull FC fans than Leeds fans.'" Quite right mate. You've shown us up this weekend. Congratulations to you and KR on a fantastic gate and a proper advert for loyal supporters.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"You lost it long ago mate. '" So you think you can toady up to me with terms of endearment after all the uncalled for personal abuse?
You say I have little man syndrome but its' clear who has been the bigger man on this thread and its' not the one who occasionally works in Poland (or not).
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| Quote ="G1"So you think you can toady up to me with terms of endearment after all the uncalled for personal abuse?'"
Suit yourself.
Quote ="G1"You say I have little man syndrome but its' clear who has been the bigger man on this thread and its' not the one who occasionally works in Poland (or not).'"
You carry on fantasizing.
But seriously, take the looks away, and you display all the attributes of what these specialists call "little man syndrome".
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| Quote ="Gotcha"
But seriously, take the looks away, and you display all the attributes of what these specialists call "little man syndrome".'" You sound like an expert on the subject. Had many "specialists" describing various syndromes to you have you?
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| Aren't you 2 bored of it now?
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Suit yourself.
You carry on fantasizing.
But seriously, take the looks away, and you display all the attributes of what these specialists call "little man syndrome".'"
Out of interest, and this in no way indicates that I want to be involved in this little back-and-forth, which "specialists" have you heard refer to "little man syndrome" and what were they specialists in?
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Urban dictionary and Wikipedia.
What are their areas of "specialism" DISA?
You, good sire, are an absolute peach. You couldn't make the up the entertaining drivel that you post. You make me feel so much more adequate when we discourse.
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Urban dictionary and Wikipedia.
What are their areas of "specialism" DISA?
You, good sire, are an absolute peach. You couldn't make the up the entertaining drivel that you post. You make me feel so much more adequate when we discourse.
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| Quote ="Sam Buca"Aren't you 2 bored of it now?'" At school, if there was a special kid, with drivel on his chin and urine on his pants that made funny noises when you poked him, would you ever tire of doing that?
Its' how I feel about Gotcha and I shall never stop poking him.
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| Mmmmm, G1, little.
More research required DISA
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| Quote ="G1"At school, if there was a special kid, with drivel on his chin and urine on his pants that made funny noises when you poked him, would you ever tire of doing that?
Its' how I feel about Gotcha and I shall never stop poking him.'"
I cant do anything but laugh at that.
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| Quote ="G1"Urban dictionary and Wikipedia.
What are their areas of "specialism" DISA?icon_razz.gif'"
Oh I don't dissagree on that one. They are about as specialist as your knowledge of Rugby League.
They do however define perfectly your personality.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Funny noises, gurgle gurgle.'"
I'll stop poking you soon.
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| Quote ="G1"I'll stop poking you soon.'"
Oh please don't. I have been bored for weeks. I am enjoying this OCD of yours.
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| Quote ="Matty_HullFC"The attendance at the Bradford game is dissapointing, but what was worse was last year at JJB's testimonial when there was nearly more Hull FC fans than Leeds fans.'"
I think you've mistaken us for someone who cares about what happens on Humberside ....
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"I'm going to have a testimonial this year, I think I deserve one, I'll post details of my shirt a little later for you all and we'll have a curry night to raise funds for me.
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I know where you could get some shirts ....
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| I'm gonna go to Walkabout for my testimonial.
Gonna have testimonial retro tracky tops too.
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