Absolutely.

Exactly. Even if the club have real issues with a player off field, they're going to keep as quiet as possible if they're looking to offload them. Imagine trying to move on a player under contract whilst telling the world he's a poor trainer/unfit/poor attitude.

Good for him!

Looks like Seb ikahihifo could be on his way to you. Was fantastic in 2017, made the dream team and was a real handful on the field. 2018 he was a disappointment and didn’t deliver to the same extent.
I’m a bit mixed about this, if you get the Seb of 2017 then we are bolstering a weak pack whilst weakening our own. Sometimes a player needs to freshen up and a different team/coach/ethos improves a player.

Don't get why some people are getting so worked up over this.

Mitch has been a really good solid import but never a SL star. If we are to overhaul the squad and manage the salary cap it's inevitable that we'll have to gamble on letting some decent players (especially overseas ones) go before we complete signings

I think it’s because he smacked James Tamou and instantly became a fan favourite in the process.

Stop it, that's far too rational, we can't be having that on here.

I noticed that Mitch thanked the supporters but said nothing about his team mates or the management ???? I think there may have been some ill feelings. If I recall, McD had issues with him also.

I thought all the messaging on this was very luke warm.

Sinnys comment felt very cold and clinical where as when someone leaves you normally get a lot more around their contribution.

Could be reading more into this than there is and ultimately it doesn't matter but it does have the feeling off a couple that's grown apart.

Sounds very much the same as garbutt,steller 2017,not a good 2018.

I’d take a fit Garbutt over most of the other props currently running around in SL. There’s quite a few (most) of our pack who I’d have preferred to have been sold on instead. I think this is the issue. It’s also unlikely we’ll sign anybody of equal or superior quality. We should have added a quality prop to go alongside Garbutt.

Having 2 Garbutt’s would have been the dream yes - but there must be good reasons why the club has made this call, and I think we have to trust in that. We’re not sure what end composition the new management is really aiming for yet.

I dont think it's that straight forward unfortunately mate

You can only move on the players others actually want tho

Merrin has a significantly better calibre than Garbutt

He does, but he's a LF/2R and we've got depth there. I suppose we could just have an oddly shaped scrum?

My post was pre-Merrin announcement. Things are looking much rosier now!

This is my worry: Peteru and Cuthbo lack "prop chops" for me, but if they play BR we have a ridiculous number. I know Leeds have carried an ethos of a mobile pack for a while, but we've lacked bite and go-forward for years.

I find it difficult to comment on Peteru as have hardly seem him play yet. i bet hes had less than 200 minutes on the field and all while recovering from injurie(s)

He's a big thing but I'm not sure he has he aggression for prop, and he's actually pretty mobile. We'll need to decide how best to use him. Bit of a potential Mitch Achurch signing unless we get it right. I think we got him for the same reason: NRL sides struggling to find his best position.

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ssion=true Interesting words from Garbutt

https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... ssion=true Interesting words from Garbutt

His injury that just would not go away, now has miraculously cleared up now he has left leeds. Think this shines some light on why he was shown the door.

Maternity leave.

Leeds treated Garbutt like by all accounts. No wonder he was happy to get out.

The injury was cleared up by the operation which ended his season.

Unsurprising given the last coaches penchant for a "warrior mentality"

Players playing injured, bizarre use (or non use) of subs, Baffling team selections and a fondness for dropping players on a whim.

Really, which accounts are these?

His comments on that Hull news site were a bit ambigous and people tweeted their own translations and Mitch wasnt to pleased with the tweets