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| Confirmed to Hull KR.
If only he wasn't as injury prone. A shame but best wishes Mitch.
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| Quote ="krisleeds"Confirmed to Hull KR.
If only he wasn't as injury prone. A shame but best wishes Mitch.'"
Yep good player when fit, but simply not even close to being fit often enough, and question marks about his attitude. its not such a loss as he hardly played, but if gets a good run next season will be an asset to Hull kr, hope this does not bite us.
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| Still,when he was on the field he made good yards.we need to replace that.
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| Been ongoing since the end of October this one, he won’t be the last to leave. Expecting a few more announcements.
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| Don’t you mean he won’t be the last?
I’m staggered that we havent agreed some “loan” deals with London...
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| Golding to follow, and whats the news on Ablett ?
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| Quote ="Homer Simpson"Golding to follow, and whats the news on Ablett ?'"
Ablett has signed a new two year deal
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| Quote ="rollin thunder"Yep good player when fit, but simply not even close to being fit often enough, and question marks about his attitude. its not such a loss as he hardly played, but if gets a good run next season will be an asset to Hull kr, hope this does not bite us.'"
what were the issues with his attitude ?
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| looks like there will be activity this week
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| I do wonder if there is some underlying issue with injuries that mean we know he's not going to improve. An already light pack just go lighter...
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| Quote ="carnegiedweller"I do wonder if there is some underlying issue with injuries that mean we know he's not going to improve. An already light pack just go lighter...'"
Hasn't he had an operation recently, maybe the club know it wont be a smooth recovery?
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| I think Mitch and Ward are two of the ones Sinfield was referring to when he talked about the salary cap in the stand.
Shame Mitch couldn’t get on the field more, he was quite useful when on it, and his contribution needs to be replaced but with more minutes on the field.
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| Quote ="lionarmour87"what were the issues with his attitude ?'"
i do not know specifically, hence question marks. but Sinfield questioned the attitude of some of the squad, and fitness. Garbutt now shipped out, make of that what you will.
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| Garbutt had one season which was massively affected by injury - the one just gone. His appearances in '16 and '17 were slightly lower than others not because of a massive injury problem but because sometimes he wasn't picked.
This is the most bull transfer I've seen at Leeds in the past 20 years, I don't think I've been this angry since James Lowes was given to Bradford.
Garbutt was our best forward by a mile and we've just released him. We've made the squad weaker at a time when we're trying to strengthen. Watch him next season as he kills it at Hull KR.
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| I find this a strange one, he was probably the only person in the squad with the size to worry defences as well as the desire to do the hard stuff. He has been injury prone last year, but in an era when it is not easy to bring in quality, it would only make sense if there is a decent replacement lined up - perhaps the Burgess slip of the tongue might be real (wishful thinking!)
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| Quote ="The Ghost of '99"Garbutt had one season which was massively affected by injury - the one just gone. His appearances in '16 and '17 were slightly lower than others not because of a massive injury problem but because sometimes he wasn't picked.
This is the most bull transfer I've seen at Leeds in the past 20 years, I don't think I've been this angry since James Lowes was given to Bradford.
Garbutt was our best forward by a mile and we've just released him. We've made the squad weaker at a time when we're trying to strengthen. Watch him next season as he kills it at Hull KR.'"
A touch hyperbolic I think
What if getting rid of Garbutt means we sign Taupau?
Alternatively Hull KR could regret signing hm if he's sat in the stands for most of the season.
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| I think Sebastine Ikahihifo might be the replacement?
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| Initially I was pretty shocked when I heard this was happening given he has been our most go forward prop...
What makes me wonder though is if he is so great why has he ended up at Hull KR. I know we were both in the bottom 4 but this must be seen as a backward step overall. If he is so good why does it not look like any top 8 side was in for him or an NRL club? There is more to this than meets the eye.
Leeds now need to sign a player better than him to show progress.
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| Quote ="Fallon"Initially I was pretty shocked when I heard this was happening given he has been our most go forward prop...
What makes me wonder though is if he is so great why has he ended up at Hull KR. I know we were both in the bottom 4 but this must be seen as a backward step overall. If he is so good why does it not look like any top 8 side was in for him or an NRL club? There is more to this than meets the eye.
Leeds now need to sign a player better than him to show progress.'"
I don't know, but we have to trust in the judgement of the club don't we? They see the players every day, deal with indiscretions, problems, and monitor their health. He is a very big human to have bad knees and get away with it. I can't believe Crosby is the Garbutt replacement, so there has to be another prop in the pipeline you would think. Unless Leeds really are trying to construct a pack made entirely of second rowers and one hooker.
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| I expect you'll have better players to come in that haven't been announced yet. Sit tight.
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| It's official.....name now changed to Hull Kingston RHINOS!!
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| Quote ="KaeruJim"I don't know, but we have to trust in the judgement of the club don't we? They see the players every day, deal with indiscretions, problems, and monitor their health. He is a very big human to have bad knees and get away with it. I can't believe Crosby is the Garbutt replacement, so there has to be another prop in the pipeline you would think. Unless Leeds really are trying to construct a pack made entirely of second rowers and one hooker.'"
I agree, Crosby isn't garbutt replacement in my eyes. I think he was always going to be added if he did ok on loan. I have been expecting mullally to leave which if he does means we have:
Crosby
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Cuthbo (who was less of a prop last season)
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So it feels like we should be looking at 2 new props.
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| Quote ="Fallon"I agree, Crosby isn't garbutt replacement in my eyes. I think he was always going to be added if he did ok on loan. I have been expecting mullally to leave which if he does means we have:
Crosby
Singleton
Petreu (who I think would make a good 2nd row)
Cuthbo (who was less of a prop last season)
Olejdski (who I think may be better served on a full years loan)
So it feels like we should be looking at 2 new props.'"
Yep pretty much my thoughts mate. You can't work second phase effectively if you're on the back foot and knackered through overwork in D. +2 starting props, and suddenly we free Cuthbo and Peteru to play back row, covering for injuries and form. We still probably need to lose 2-3 backrowers come the end of 2019 at that (JJB already announced). Ferres/Ward/Cuthbertson back 3 with Peteru, Smith, Ablett, JJB and maybe an Academy prospect is looking far stronger suddenly. Still have no clue what the club intends to to with Sutcliffe, and what happened to the Parcell rumours..?
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| Quote ="cheekydiddles"I think Sebastine Ikahihifo might be the replacement?'"
Is he any better? Personally not seen much from him when Wakey have played Hudds!
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| He has gone to Hull KR because that is one of the 3 SL clubs his agent has a strong relationship: Castleford and Warrington being the other two.
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