Jrrrhinos list had him at prop. That's a silly idea.

You know what im getting at.

I know versatility and cover is important but I always feel that specialist players should play their best position.

I do not know as many Leeds fans as i used to , but i know 6 who will no longer be season ticket holders next year due to this seasons debacle and the recruitment for next season

So what are you on about us persisting with it when it hasn’t been happening?

Being a bit pedantic. My post was about Jrrrhino listing him as a prop and Donaldson being mentioned as back up.
We have in the past been forced into it. we shouldnt be using it as a starting plan

I agree

Fair weather supporters?

Make no mistake, this is a truly diabolical signing, but like others have said, he's here now. Let's see how he goes.

Though the bar is incredibly low, surely he can only be better than what the majority of us think.

Hes better than Martin at stand off so that's something

He is a current Canberra raiders s/o who are in the playoffs so he isn’t rubbish ,just not very exciting.

Exactly - I think he's been signed for a specific reason, if he can be calm controlled and lead the team around without being flashy he could be a decent signing, the stick he has been getting is way OTT

He's obviously not terrible. To play anywhere near the NRL, you have to be a good player. He's just not exciting at all, and the other question is why sign him when there's been other halves that seem better on the market - Tyrone May and Mitchell Pierce being good examples.

The other side is how can HKR have spine players of Parcell, Litten, Abdull, Lewis, May, Milnes, Hiku and the lad from Cas for next year, but we look so light contrastingly. Not all those are world beaters, but it's great depth in those positions to have. Hiku has been in great form for the Cowboys for the last 2 years too.

Yep, hopefully he can be a calming, controlling influence that we thought Sezer would be.
And he's currently playing in a decent NRL side - he can't be that terrible.
Let's give the kid a chance guys.

While not wowed by the signing of Frawley let's give the guy a chance. He seems to want to come and at 28 has relatively low miles on the clock so potentially less likely to pick up injuries. If he's replacing Sezer who on paper is the better player but has only fleetingly performed it is probably on less money and he has something to prove and all the reports describe him as a team player.
The key is what happens now and if Frawley is part of a wider jigsaw with bigger names still to arrive and full cap plus marquee spots used. If that's the case then he could be a useful signing however if its him and Myler with a couple more uninspired signings still to come in and the cap wasted with no obvious marquees filled then all criticism will be fully justified. We need a couple of x factor players to take us to the next level.

Mitchel piearce will be 35 next year and wants to go home.

Id have taken May but he’s not the same type of player as Frawley.

Spot on

Frawley is a half back in a side that has made the play offs in the NRL despite having a maverick coach in Stewart. One thing is certain he will be an improvement on Sezer who has been a terrible signing. He needs time to show what he can do but in order to do that he needs a pack of forwards to deliver him a platform. The likes of Oldeski and Bentley need to up their game significantly and Cameron Smith needs to stay out the plays.

Hopefully more signings to come - hopefully the likes of Myler and Donaldson are fringe players not weekly starters.

Let’s give the lad a chance. It’s up to the coaching staff (hopefully) to improve any player.

Agree, I think Donaldson gives everything so I respect him for that. Personally I would move Myler on.

Donaldson already is a fringe player, he barely played when we had a fully fit squad.

Myler can still do a job at fullback but with Miller incoming, I imagine he will be a fringe player also.

I think Myler would probably be glad to be more of a fringe player, he's no spring chicken (in RL player terms) and it could maybe prolong his career a year or two if he isn't playing every week

Myler is a good player to have on the books. Great attitude, does whatever is asked of him, rarely if ever out with niggly injuries and can cover a number of positions.

Myler as a utility back up is fine

Think he'd make a great bench option. If we don't get a hooker I'd let O'Connor and Johnson fight it out, but only play one of them as neither brings any real difference from the bench. Myler, on the other hand, provides cover for all the spine positions.

I'm hoping next year O'Connor does the first 20 and CJ the second.
Jarrods work rate is excellent abd with a full preseason and work on distrfrom PtB he will get better.

CJ just needs game time to see where he's going skill wise.