https://www.therhinos.co.uk/article/194 ... y-for-2024

https://www.therhinos.co.uk/article/194 ... y-for-2024

No shock here - I’ll reserve any judgement until I see him play for us but he seems skilful and a good character - for me the success of his signing will depend on who else we get at 7, and in the pack. Hope he goes well.

Just to echo KaeruJim, he's a Leeds player from 2024 and we can only fairly judge him based on what he does when he gets here.

I see Smith is heralding this as a team-oriented player who wants to be here. This is all well and good. Smith is clearly staking his coaching reputation on this working out so if it doesn't, the fans who have already made up their minds that Smith is the wrong man for Leeds will be happy, no doubt.

It's probably a good thing that expectations are low (at this point in time) for next season

Yes mate, personally I still think RS has a master plan but if he doesn’t get proved right in these next signings for a club like these with the cap and quota spots he has, he will lose his job over it. He simply has to be able to put a squad together that will make top 4 next season for me or he’ll have to go.

Going to struggle to get excited about this one, I just don't see the player that we need in him. I hope I'm wrong.

Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need. “He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.” https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46

Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need. “He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.” https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46

The clubs social media couldn't find a highlights package to add to the announcement like the normally do

Iv tried, but just cant get excited for this one, watched as much as i can of him over the last few days, which admittedly is only 7 games, and its just backed up the memories i have from his time at Huddersfield, extremely average.

Coupled with the post about Bentley resigning, could not be any more deflated about how we're using this cap space we've been waiting for, a team crying out for some speed and dynamism, commiting to 2 of the slowest, least dynamic players you could find in there respective positions, an udersized prop who works hard but dosnt punch holes, resigned Donaldson because every team needs a player like Donaldson, agreed, problem is we'v now got 4 of them.

Miller i like, but on the whole, think we're doing a horrible job with next years squad so far.

But on the plus side, iv been wrong plenty of times before, Hopefully the team is better than the sum of its parts

Interesting reading Rohan's comments about him are all about him being a good team man. Hardly selling him as the messiah. Maybe that's a good thing, but holy smoke if that really is the best they can do after knowing we'd need at least one halfback for a year then deary me.

Having said all that, I'll support him now he's signed, and will shut up about how really not very good he is.

Exactly, the comments are strange imo, its like they know the general feeling of the fans, but the best they can offer with a straight face are that he wants to be here and he's a good bloke.

I think Frawley is getting some unwarranted stick on here. Now I'm not saying he's the worlds best halfback but he won't be the same player he was at Hudds 4/5 years ago, he was 24 and didn't have much experience now he hasn't been playing NRL consistently at Canberra since going back to Oz but he's 28/29 and is a more mature player and probably a different player to what he was at Hudds. Jack Cogger was seen as a waste of space player at Hudds hes gone back to oz and will more than likely win the Premiership with the Panthers. From what I've been told from my source at the club they are trying very hard to get a top class half to partner Frawley whether we can attract/ land that calibre of player we'll have to see.

I have no recollection of Frawley at Hudds, and I haven't seen him play in Aus. Cant imagine hes as bad as some are making out on here and on social media.

He says hes an organiser, and apparently a good leader and kicker, this is exactly what we need so hopefully it works out well.

Quote ="christopher"Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need. “He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.” https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46'" If that quote is even 80% true he’ll be better at moving us around the park than the current incumbent’s. It’s a big if until we see him play every week though.

Quote ="christopher"Quote from Raiders fans twitter, to be fair that does sound like what we need. “He has a very good kicking game. Good cross field bombs and short attacking kicks his best. Left foot. Five eighth definitely his best spot. Experienced, calm, a leader, can organise, but best as a secondary playmaker. Can play hooker at a pinch.” https://twitter.com/theghraiders/status ... 14851?s=46'" If that quote is even 80% true he’ll be better at moving us around the park than the current incumbent’s. It’s a big if until we see him play every week though.

Hope it’s Croft…now that would be showing some ambition.

Club could still just turn this around by announcing Brodie Croft and Tom Burgess in the coming weeks

Hopefully a case of Dunemann Mk2, and there are more dynamic signings to come.

Looks like he's playing at six again in the play offs this weekend. Miller looks to be dropping out to make way for Ponga.

I have to think Leeds will be trying for a few more signings but unless the new ones are better than the old ones, how are we going to move forward?

I thought our pack would be sorted this year but it still isn't. If we can establish more yardage and momentum in the middle it will make whoever plays 6 and 7 look miles better.

Have you any sense that it might be Croft? I think most people on here, including myself, think he would be ideal, but maybe that's just because we see him more often. My doubt about it is that if there was any truth in it, it would be all over the various RL News sites. I haven't even seen it reported as a rumour.

FB- L.Miller, R.Myler, L.Hooley, A.Edgell

W- D.Fusitu'a, A.Handley, D.Olpherts,
R.Lumb

C- H.Newman, New Centre, L.Roberts, M.Simpson, J.Smith

HLF- M.Frawley, New Half, J.Sinfield

PROP- M.Oledzki, T.Holroyd, S.Lisone, M.Goudemond, J.Sangare

HOK- J.O'Connor, C.Johnson

BR- J.Bentley, R.Martin, J.Mcdonnell, M.Gannon, L.Ruan, T.Warren

LF- C.Smith, J.Donaldson

Just a break down of what our 2024 roster is looking like. Been told Fusitu'a has definitely resigned, Bentley has been offered a deal and close to signing after his negotiations with 2 SL clubs broke down apparently Hudds & Hull FC we're the ones in for him.

The Leeds is making a top class Half back a priority to partner Frawley.

Myler will be main utility to cover all spine positions 1,6,7 &9.

Rhyse will also cover centre the clubs relationship with Nene Macdonald seems pretty much dead in the water and it'll take a lot for them to get back on good terms with each other so the club are also looking for a new Centre.

Donaldson & Ruan will cover at Prop to make up for loss of Walters.

Finally Rowan Milnes is hesitant at joining now because he wants to be a 1st choice Half which it looks like he won't be if he signs with us or if he stays at Hull KR.

That's what I got updated today after asking about what comes after Frawley deal.

That sounds like there's a gripe about the club from MacDonald?

That front row needs another addition to get back up in the 4 with Mik returning to form too.

Croft I think is just supporter talk of someone whos the level we need to be looking at whilst also somewhat attainable. It may be that the sale of Dupree has enabled them to resist offers, plus I cant see GH putting up a fee like Wigan did.

Looks about right so far. New centre and new half must be decent players and even then I'm not convinced by this side I'll be honest. I'd rather we didn't re-sign Bentley and found a strike second rower instead.

I thought we'd already quashed that urban myth? Leeds will pay a fee - a big one - if they deem it worthwhile.

Yep. Was it 175K for Gale? There or thereabouts.

I didn't realise it was as much as that. Who have been the other examples of big fees paid in recent years, say the last decade. I don't profess to follow the finances a great deal though does the stadium build and COVID recovery alter that thinking?

The paid a transfer fee (on top of the Tui swap) for Lui. Think that was about 50k.