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| The defensive performances have been inconsistent and, quite frankly, the attacking play is woeful.
The performance against Wigan was, in parts, a carbon copy of last season’s trip to Saints. Some different players, same powder puff tackling! I’m sorry, he’s a nice guy but, not up to this job.
As for who comes in, the club could and should find a suitable replacement, if they have the will to do so. Asking who it should be on here is like asking what kind of Summer we’re going to have.
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| Quote ="Fred Lindop Lives"The defensive performances have been inconsistent and, quite frankly, the attacking play is woeful.
The performance against Wigan was, in parts, a carbon copy of last season’s trip to Saints. Some different players, same powder puff tackling! I’m sorry, he’s a nice guy but, not up to this job.
As for who comes in, the club could and should find a suitable replacement, if they have the will to do so. Asking who it should be on here is like asking what kind of Summer we’re going to have.'"
Peoople probably overrated the playing squad too though. How can we look so short of props already with just one injury at prop (in someone who has been injured more than played), and even with Newman and Fusitua back we still won’t create anything on left edge. The less said about Hookers the better. We had the back lines up to go though Sezer, then Leeming and Dwyer scoot down blind alleys. Literally school boy stuff…..
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| Quote ="Shabino"Peoople probably overrated the playing squad too though. How can we look so short of props already with just one injury at prop (in someone who has been injured more than played), and even with Newman and Fusitua back we still won’t create anything on left edge. The less said about Hookers the better. We had the back lines up to go though Sezer, then Leeming and Dwyer scoot down blind alleys. Literally school boy stuff…..'"
Only time we looked dangerous was when they scooted out of dh. We don't have the impact in the forwards to create the momentum
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| Quote ="ALAW"Only time we looked dangerous was when they scooted out of dh. We don't have the impact in the forwards to create the momentum'"
The backs would look good behind a dominant pack.
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| Quote ="HucknallLoiner"The backs would look good behind a dominant pack.'"
we had enough good position against Catalans to win and conspired to throw the ball away numerous times
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| One thing I'd like to see is the journalists actually asking Agar hard questions in his press conferences. I know they all want access, but if its at the expense of soft-soap nonsense its a waste of time. It doesn't need to be aggressive, but asking him what he's actually going to do to fix things would seem to be standard. Instead we get 'another hard day Rich?' or throwing him questions which can be used to excuse rubbish without any pressing as to what 'watching the tapes' will achieve that hasn't already happened, why poor-performing players keep getting picked etc.
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| We want an across the board double - Bielsa out / Agar out !!!
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| To be fair United are at the point where they had to do something or face the real risk of relegation. We're not at that stage, and we're not at risk of it. The risk for us is another season treading water followed by yet another 'rebuild' next year. All anyone asked for before the season started was a sign we would be much more competitive this season. This is not a season in isolation - its Agar's third full season and we've made plenty of signings during that time but don't seem to be consistently moving forward.
I'm not clamouring for Agar to be sacked today, but I also don't want to see another McDermott-style fiasco where we've got a dead coach walking for far too long. Its up to Agar to sort this out.
My gut feeling is he's too conservative and in some cases blind to self-inflicted selection issues. His comments on Dwyer about sum that up - he keeps picking him despite the fact he has kindergarten standard passing because he might be able to create a gap. Never mind making it almost impossible for the rest of the team to function, just keep hoping Dwyer will 'do something'. Is that coaching??
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| Quote ="Once were Loiners"To be fair United are at the point where they had to do something or face the real risk of relegation. We're not at that stage, and we're not at risk of it. The risk for us is another season treading water followed by yet another 'rebuild' next year. All anyone asked for before the season started was a sign we would be much more competitive this season. This is not a season in isolation - its Agar's third full season and we've made plenty of signings during that time but don't seem to be consistently moving forward.
I'm not clamouring for Agar to be sacked today, but I also don't want to see another McDermott-style fiasco where we've got a dead coach walking for far too long. Its up to Agar to sort this out.
My gut feeling is he's too conservative and in some cases blind to self-inflicted selection issues. His comments on Dwyer about sum that up - he keeps picking him despite the fact he has kindergarten standard passing because he might be able to create a gap. Never mind making it almost impossible for the rest of the team to function, just keep hoping Dwyer will 'do something'. Is that coaching??'"
The equivalent in junior rugby of 'give it to the big kid'. Hope he grabs a couple then we can gloss over how poor the rest of the game was.
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| Don't watch too many games these days, but I'm having to go back a long way to think of a less attractive Leeds team than this one.
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| Quote ="DHM"Don't watch too many games these days, but I'm having to go back a long way to think of a less attractive Leeds team than this one.'"
You don’t have to go too far back we were awful for the majority of the 2018 and 2019 seasons
Less said about 2016 the better.
A lot can change look at Hull, they looked dreadful against Saints, fast forward a week…
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| Last year our top two try scorers were hookers, which pretty much sums up how lacking in width we were. Bring in two new halfbacks and we're still not looking at all dangerous or playing with enough width - partly because both centres and the full back apparently have no idea how to pass the ball.
DHM is right - we're horrible to watch. Warrington was entertaining but mainly because it was backs against the wall stuff. Even our highlights are generally uninspiring.
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| Quote ="FlexWheeler"
This season is now over (You don't lose your first 3 games and have a realistic chance of making the grand final). Wake me up once Saints/Wigan have won the grand final (probably saints).'"
You don't win Grand Finals from 5th position either apparently but hey guess what?
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| Every club he’s been out there has been an Agar out thread. Wonder why that is.
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| The way we currently play reminds me of Saints under Cunningham. It needs to improve and quickly.
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| Quote ="Trebor1"The way we currently play reminds me of Saints under Cunningham. It needs to improve and quickly.'"
Dont think we are that bad, Cas under Radford look more like it.
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| Quote ="Willzay"Every club he’s been out there has been an Agar out thread. Wonder why that is.'"
Because there has been an 'insert current coach here' out thread at some point for every club and every coach at some point.
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| Quote ="christopher"You don’t have to go too far back we were awful for the majority of the 2018 and 2019 seasons
Less said about 2016 the better.
A lot can change look at Hull, they looked dreadful against Saints, fast forward a week…'"
I guess I was trying to sum up the last few seasons. The team seems to be evolving in the wrong direction. I admire your optimism, it reminds me of how I used to feel in the 80's at the start of every season.
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| Quote ="DHM"I guess I was trying to sum up the last few seasons. The team seems to be evolving in the wrong direction. I admire your optimism, it reminds me of how I used to feel in the 80's at the start of every season.'"
I just think its the fact we've had 3 defeats to start the season that people are getting a bit too carried away with the doom and gloom.
Bar the Warrington game we've looked very ordinary, but it is only 3 games in. It could all go totally pear shaped and we could be dire for the rest of the season, but it might not, who knows.
Put 3 or 4 decent performances in in the coming weeks and it will all seem a bit different. We've played just two games with the new halfbacks and a fullback who's been out for 2 seasons, it might take a few games to get going.
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| again Christopher this isnt just about 3 games but also the manner of them and off the back of so many games last year where the best hasnt been got out of the team available. I can count on 1 hand the games that have been really enjoyable and that i felt the team played really well. I have little faith therefore that Agars track record will move the team on to compete for the GF this year.
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| Quote ="Seth"again Christopher this isnt just about 3 games but also the manner of them and off the back of so many games last year where the best hasnt been got out of the team available. I can count on 1 hand the games that have been really enjoyable and that i felt the team played really well. I have little faith therefore that Agars track record will move the team on to compete for the GF this year.'"
I know, it's just becoming a circular discussion.
Agar is going to move at some point I would suspect this will be his last year has Head Coach, unless we go through a serious losing streak and he loses the dressing room there's nothing to be gained from getting shut now.
It really is just a case of we are where we are at the moment.
I think this team is capable of something this year, we will just have to wait and see.
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| Fingers crossed! I don't think anyone is disagreeing about not firing Agar now.
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"0-4.'"
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| I actually like Agar and think he would be great in the director of rugby role. I am really struggling to see what impact Sean Long is having. Our attacking platform lacks structure and basic skills which is his job to lead improvement. Interestingly Leixester Tigers are 16 points clear in the posh boys comp with there new defenxe coach!
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