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| Quote ="tvoc"
Keith Mason running in from a distance to a [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13559skirmish[/urland not holding back when he gets there. Found guilty and fined by the RFL but no suspension?
Is the disciplinary committee on the right lines?'"
Yes, if that is going to be deemed to be an acceptable act for all SL players for the remainder of the season.
It's no big surprise that Mason has been accused of "running in" to a fight that he didn't start, does he ever ?
If i remember correctly, he had a pop at JP whilst he was wrapped up in a 2 man tackle, the ironic thing about this "cheap shot merchant" is that if Ryan Bailey did the self same thing, then he would be vilified by the s on these forums as being a thug!
One rule for one, and another for someone else i suppose
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| Quote ="tvoc"Sounds unlikely but yes I hadn't considered that.
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| Quote ="The Biffs Back"You're obviously cheering for the Dragons then
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| Quote ="tvoc"As a rule I almost always cheer for Bradford's opponents. I'm fickle like that.'"
Can't fault you, me too
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And speaking of Huddersfield you have to admire their [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13553ambition[/urlto not leave any stones unturned as they build a challenge to the top two.'" First its' Hull we shoud emulate now Huddersfield.
Are you hoping we'll finish about 8th?
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| Quote ="tvoc"Are Bradford correct in doing [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13558this[/url?
Loaning a player to presumably get gametime elsewhere and then restricting his availability if it looks a tough encounter?
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Keith Mason running in from a distance to a [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13559skirmish[/urland not holding back when he gets there. Found guilty and fined by the RFL but no suspension?
Is the disciplinary committee on the right lines?
And speaking of Huddersfield you have to admire their [url=http://www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=13553ambition[/urlto not leave any stones unturned as they build a challenge to the top two.'"
I doubt he would add much to our squad but I see the point your getting at.
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| Quote ="G1"First its' Hull we shoud emulate now Huddersfield.
Are you hoping we'll finish about 8th?'"
I'd be happy for Leeds to emulate any club that acknowledges when there is a deficency within the playing squad (with room + wriggle room under the cap) and go out and do something about it.
For me it's a matter of Leeds being the best Leeds can be within the rules. Hull and Huddersfield have shown that making late signings isn't the impossibility some would have you believe.
Leeds have already failed to defend one title and set a record no other club can boast. Becoming back to back to back champions would be something else no other club in the SL Era could lay claim to. Pity if that isn't achieved having come this far while underfunding the 1st team squad.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd be happy for Leeds to emulate any club that acknowledges when there is a deficency within the playing squad (with room + wriggle room under the cap) and go out and do something about it.
For me it's a matter of Leeds being the best Leeds can be within the rules. Hull and Huddersfield have shown that making late signings isn't the impossibility some would have you believe.
Leeds have already failed to defend one title and set a record no other club can boast. Becoming back to back to back champions would be something else no other club in the SL Era could lay claim to. Pity if that isn't achieved having come this far while underfunding the 1st team squad.'"
so how would you go about sorting the situation?
I can see 7 solutions:
[listGet someone who is not of sufficient quality for a 2 or 3 year contract, but is available (Hull mode)
Get someone not good enough for the NRL over for a loan for a year (Hudds Mode)
Sign a someone for a decent length contract, and deal with Eastwood situation if he gets his Visa
Sign a someone for a decent length contract, and end interest with Eastwood.
Pay a transfer fee and get someone in SL (assuming that everyone would fit into the wage structure and would come to Leeds)
Keep an eye out for decent players becoming available
Keep faith with the acadamy lads as and when needed
Other solution[/list:u
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| Quote ="tvoc"I'd be happy for Leeds to emulate any club that acknowledges when there is a deficency within the playing squad (with room + wriggle room under the cap) and go out and do something about it.
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| Quote ="G1"All hail Huddersfield as a shining beacon of Super League brilliance.'"
If Leeds virtually gave away their season tickets who knows, they might be able to get crowds of 7-8,000 too.
On the disciplinary point, it's a Challenge Cup week. Is anyone genuinely surprised when the corner of the rug gets lifted and a few offences get swept under it?
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| Quote ="G1"All hail Huddersfield as a shining beacon of Super League brilliance.'"
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| Quote ="leicester_rhino"so how would you go about sorting the situation?'"
First of all I wouldn't neccessarily be in this situation in the first place but that's a seperate issue.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"I can see 7 solutions:
[listGet someone who is not of sufficient quality for a 2 or 3 year contract, but is available (Hull mode) '"
Lauaki looked sufficient quality during the world cup if they can get him over here.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Get someone not good enough for the NRL over for a loan for a year (Hudds Mode)'"
Liam Fulton has a NRL GF winners ring hasn't he? On loan Michael Dobson came over here as an unknown but hasn't let down Les Catalans, Wigan (saved them if anything) and Hull KR.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Sign a someone for a decent length contract, and deal with Eastwood situation if he gets his Visa'"
That works.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Sign a someone for a decent length contract, and end interest with Eastwood.'"
That also works.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Pay a transfer fee and get someone in SL (assuming that everyone would fit into the wage structure and would come to Leeds)'"
That also works.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Keep an eye out for decent players becoming available'"
Naturally but what if no-one becomes available? Sometimes you have to make it happen rather than just sitting back and waiting.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Keep faith with the acadamy lads as and when needed'"
I can't really dismiss that option when I haven't seen them given a run in the 1st team yet. When I do see Watkins, Gibson and Allan I don't think 'wow there here and in the team to stay.' As for the rest Ambler ect I firmly believe that if you're good enough you're old enough but without seeing them I'll have to assume that for now they aren't good enough.
Quote ="leicester_rhino"Other solution[/list:u'"
I think you've covered most of the options nicely there.
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| Soliola? OOC at end of the season and I'm sure i've heard he's out of form/ out of the team. I imagine we could get a release on his contract early for next to nothing and he sure is a handy player.
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| Quote ="G1"All hail Huddersfield as a shining beacon of Super League brilliance.'"
Currently 3rd having gone 8 successive away games unbeaten with a balanced squad made up of a combination of mainly Ex-Wigan youngsters and Ex-West Tigers NRL GF winning team of 2005, increasing gates, with a forward thinking generous chairman and excellent ground/facilities. A club who didn't sit on their hands when faced with a Visa disappointment but went out and sourced a replacement.
If not Leeds there is plenty there for most SL teams to aspire to certainly.
I see them with the potential to replace Bradford as Yorkshire's number two challenger and wish them good luck in doing so.
Getting up the increasingly irrational Brian Noble's nose is another plus point.
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Getting up the increasingly irrational Brian Noble's nose is another plus point.'" I'll give you that.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Currently 3rd having gone 8 successive away games unbeaten with a balanced squad made up of a combination of mainly Ex-Wigan youngsters and Ex-West Tigers NRL GF winning team of 2005, increasing gates by giving tickets away, with a forward thinking generous chairman and excellent ground/facilities. A club who didn't sit on their hands when faced with a Visa disappointment but went out and sourced a replacement.
If not Leeds there is plenty there for most SL teams to aspire to certainly.
I see them with the potential to replace Bradford as Yorkshire's number two challenger and wish them good luck in doing so.
Getting up the increasingly irrational Brian Noble's nose is another plus point.'"
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| Quote ="tvoc"Getting up the increasingly irrational Brian Noble's nose is another plus point.'"
Did you see Phil Clarke totally blow Noble's complaints away on Boots N All?
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Getting up the increasingly irrational Brian Noble's nose is another plus point.'"
Paul "the Brain" Cullen did a tremendous and very subtle hatchet job on Noble last night. Wigan tired the same tactics as Hudds, but were just rubbish at it. Very excellent.
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| Quote ="G1"I'll give you that.'"
You're too kind, I was expecting the concession re the ground though.
Quote ="Dirty Pretty Thing"Did you see Phil Clarke totally blow Noble's complaints away on Boots N All?'"
Furthermore there's nothing new about the wrestle, holding a player upright, then putting him to ground and leaning on causing a nine second delay to reset. Ellery Hanley for one made a career out of it.
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| Quote ="tvoc"You're too kind, I was expecting the concession re the ground though.
'" One concession a week is my usual limit but I am in a good mood so go on then. Its' nearer to home for me and I like it. I hated it until 1999 (in particular in 1996 and 1997) but its' been a nice venue since then.
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Why can't they just rely on their Academy players like Leeds do.
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| Quote ="tvoc"[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/09/04/08/RUGBYL_Bradford_Tupou.htmlWhat is it with clubs losing players and having space on their cap going out and looking to sign replacements.[/url
Why can't they just rely on their Academy players like Leeds do.
'" Interesting that you should bring Tupou up. Here's an overseas threequarter from the NRL that a Sl club signed up during the season with free cap space.
Kind of what you're advocating we should do.
Oh yes, the Bulls experience with the now sacked Tupou is a great example for you to bring up in support of your proposition.
I hope Leeds follow the same path. really, I do.
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| Quote ="Eastwoods Delayed Visa"No more Tupoumania???
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I remember telling Bullseye on here that McNamara was way too young and inexperienced for the Bulls and that Toupou was no replacement for Vainikolo.
He didn't agree with me back then using Matty Elliot as an example.
I could see where he was coming from but still you can't always be right.
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| Quote ="G1"Interesting that you should bring Tupou up. Here's an overseas threequarter from the NRL that a Sl club signed up during the season with free cap space.
Kind of what you're advocating we should do.
Oh yes, the Bulls experience with the now sacked Tupou is a great example for you to bring up in support of your proposition.
I hope Leeds follow the same path. really, I do.
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I didn't need to bring up Toupou when Leeds already had their very own Toopi experience.
On the other hand Lauitiiti hasn't worked out too bad and elsewhere Dobson steered Catalans around quite nicely in Jones' injury absence and 100% saved Wigan and the RFL from fudging on their imminent relegation from SL.
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