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I think you need to play in and win a few more GF before you can claim to be big game kings

Nothing wrong with them odds to be honest

What, like bradfords experience was a factor in 2004?

I don't know why people go on about experience because it means nothing it's (to use a boring cliche) 'who turns up on the day'.

And [iMega ultra super uber jedi master coach[/i tony smith has proven pretty good at extracting those performances from his teams.

Those odds look fine, the smart money goes on warrington. They looked fresher last week, have been a better team all year and dusted leeds down in a final less than 2 months ago.

Correct. You are to us, what we are to saints, What saints used to be to the bulls. Make sure you celebrate big when you pop your grand final winning cherries

Bookies give their odds on facts, not gut feelings . On paper the Wire have a better side, they finished second and we finished fifth, they stuffed us in the CC final a few weeks ago. So on those facts only the Wire should be the ones to win. But this is sport anything can happen. 2008 World Cup final all the Aussie had to do was turn up, they were the best side ever. But long what happened, the New Zealanders won. It is sport, on paper the Wire will win, but you never never know. Come on leeds

Your thoughts on the weekly rounds are probably the same as many at Leeds including the management, and that’s what killing the game. I know you’ll all say its sore grapes on my part, but it isn’t, you’re just looking at the success of the club and think that the club is playing it smart, it’s not. By not playing with the same commitment every week you’re not just short changing your season ticket holders they are spoiling the league by making the weekly rounds almost irrelevant.

For the most part I don't think it's intentional (Huddersfield on the last day apart). But when it comes to the play-offs, it IS the club playing it smart, because we're still one of the best teams around in knock-out football. The coaching and management will be fully aware of the need to improve regular season performances.

I honestly don't think it's Leeds' problem. It's for other sides to make sure that they're matching the rhinos standards so that we can't coast through the regular rounds

Wire are favourites and rightly so. I like that we are underdogs.

Got £5 at 16/1 for Leeds grand final win just before playoffs
£5 on Delaney for MOM 50/1

Well well well.

What did I say...

...there's only one big game kings

Book makers - Wrong Again - That's why were Champions AGAIN, from 5th AGAIN