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| Quote ="Gotcha"Senior will not be playing past 2010, that is a cast iron guarantee, straight from the horses mouth himself. He may well go play a couple of seasons of Union after, but not another of League.
If Watkins and Coady were ready they would be playing now. There is not much difference playing wise between now and Easter next year.
We need a centre to replace Smith, who will fill Seniors boots from end of 2010. The other centre position shoudl be filled by Watkins and Coady, depending on development.
Both however, will still probably get opportunities next season regardless.'"
Ill believe it when i see it. If Keith feels like his body is up for another season he will take it.
Watkins has got to make the step up sooner or later. He has had more game time this season than last he will be ready with another pre-season under his belt.
It alright having a decent right centre but if he hasnt got a good wide back rower along side him he wont get the service and opportunities that Senior is getting and that is where our problem lies imo. Instead of recruiting a top class centre get a top class back rower that can give Watkins and Scotty some space and good service.
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| Heard Halatau going to Dulls
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| Also heard very recently that we had made a considerable cash offer for Shenton.
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| Quote ="joshua102"Heard Halatau going to Dulls'"
Makes sense with Newton moving on.
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| Quote ="RhinoNeil"Makes sense with Newton moving on.'"
Good to see the famed Bradford youth system bearing fruit - binned Keal Carlisle off to the Giants and now find themselves trying to sign an overseas hooker...
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| Quote ="LS14 RHINO"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-Youth-policy-is.5459260.jp
Says on here that we are also monitoring Castleford's Ryan Boyle, is he another young forward?'"
Leeds born prop played a few games this year and last.
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| Ive heard that hes in very good form at the moment.
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| Heared today that Leeds have offered £200k for Shenton and Ryan Bailey in swop deal. Only a rumour tho'
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| Quote ="Tingley Rhino"Heared today that Leeds have offered £200k for Shenton and Ryan Bailey in swop deal. Only a rumour tho''"
RUMOURS ON SS SHOCK!!!!!!!
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHEN DID THIS START??????
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| Quote ="Tingley Rhino"Heared today that Leeds have offered £200k for Shenton and Ryan Bailey in swop deal. Only a rumour tho''" Even if we have made an offer I doubt very much that it would be as much as £200k plus Bailey.
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| Quote ="tvoc"I wouldn't rule Atkins out either, reminds me of Senior in his Sheffield days.'"
I think so too and with that 'come and sign me article' before last Friday's game I would not be surprised, but think it could involve a swap deal with Wakey?
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Even if we have made an offer I doubt very much that it would be as much as £200k plus Bailey.'"
That could be the "overall" figure if the deal is to be believed!!
I doubt cas would accept it though anyway unless they really do need as much dosh as possible for their alleged new ground!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms"That could be the "overall" figure if the deal is to be believed!!
I doubt cas would accept it though anyway unless they really do need as much dosh as possible for their alleged new ground!!'"
I hope its not true, as good as a player Shenton is, I would rather he stayed at Castleford because hes home grown talent for them, and is one of the most infleuntial players too their squad.
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| BTW, Millard's nothing special. Just thought I'd mention it...
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| Quote ="LS14 RHINO"www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-rhinos-news/Leeds-Rhinos-Youth-policy-is.5459260.jp
Says on here that we are also monitoring Castleford's Ryan Boyle, is he another young forward?'"
He's a very good young player. Seen him play a few times this season.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Even if we have made an offer I doubt very much that it would be as much as £200k plus Bailey.'"
Out of interest, why would you doubt it?
With the new signings we have made in the last couple of weeks, unless Bailey shows a dramatic turn in form I think we can safely say he is out of here when out of contract. That contract ends end of next season.
Nobody would pay a transfer fee for Bailey, knowing they can have him for free end of next season.
Shenton is now an international and besides Senior is the highest rated British centre in Super League right now. Ahead of the over rated Gleeson, who has gone previously for a higher transfer fee, and only this season, despite coming out of contract went for half that sum.
For what its worth, I dont think that rumour is true, as I dont for one minute think that Cas would sell Shenton.
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| I was told £120k for Shenton straight cash deal and that is a done deal.
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| Shenton doesn't really thrill me. Ellis was obvious class, Shenton may or may not be able to step up in a big team.
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| Quote ="Dave Heron's Moustache"Shenton doesn't really thrill me. Ellis was obvious class, Shenton may or may not be able to step up in a big team.'"
I think he's got more skill than atkins but isn't as powerfull,i'd welcome him but as has been mentioned i doubt cas would sell!!
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| Quote ="rhinoms" but as has been mentioned i doubt cas would sell!!'"
I can't see it either.
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| Quote ="Gotcha"Out of interest, why would you doubt it?
'" Shenton dosen't dominate his position on the field like Senior or Gidley does.He still for mine has long way to go before he's a top centre.We are in a credit crunch and therefore cannot see GH parting with £200k plus Bailey.
IIRC the rumoured fee for Ellis who when signed from Wakefield(who was a far player than Shenton is now) was about £125k.
£120K looks about right to me.
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| Quote ="fanstanningley"Shenton dosen't dominate his position on the field like Senior or Gidley does.He still for mine has long way to go before he's a top centre.We are in a credit crunch and therefore cannot see GH parting with £200k plus Bailey.
IIRC the rumoured fee for Ellis who when signed from Wakefield(who was a far player than Shenton is now) was about £125k.
£120K looks about right to me.'"
Ellis was a completely different player to Shenton, and his overall fee was higher than that, based on the friendlies.
Wakefield offered Atkins to Leeds for £150k plus Kirke. Shenton is far better than Atkins and whilst I am not a lover of Kirke, you could argue he is worth more than Bailey at the moment.
Forget Senior and Gidley, they are not relevent as both will be out of the game in the next 12-24 months. its about the next generation.
Shenton is regarded by most in the game as the best English Centre other than Senior. If any centre was going to get a big transfer fee paid for them it would be him. You also have to make way for the fact that Cas do not need to sell. The only issue that could throw a spanner in the works is if Shenton demanded to leave, which would then put a buying club in a better position. Which is an issue Wakey had to deal with on the Ellis front, becasue Gareth told them he wanted to move.
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Renaldi also off to viellnieuve (sp ? )
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