These youngsters today. No respect for their elders!

Ashley Gibson - not big enough, not fast enough, not strong enough, not explosive enough.

Your list does nothing much to address these points.

In fact you choose to compare to past players who actually satisfy most of the above criteria.

There are other desirables in a centre but the above is the areas I see Gibson being especially deficient in, even if he's as tall as some other short, powerful centres from the past.

Zip it old man river or il break yer hip

I'm 5'7.

But how tall are you?

well, he's not deficient in these areas, as demonstrated by the comparison.

which is my point.

Whether or not he has he skill levels to suceed at the required level is a diffrent story, but phiscally he makes he grade IMHO

Try comparing his physical attributes to our other centre.....

Keith Senior...6 foot 3 and 16 stone

How is you point proved. You've just quoted me saying 'not strong enough' when all you've given is Gibson's height. By your reckoning Gibson must be stronger than Leuluai in that case.

Smithy is aledgedly 5ft 10 .I am Just over 5ft 11..
I was stood talking to him a couple of months ago and he aint much higher than my shoulder .
And no way is Keef nearly 4 inches taller than me .
Maybe they use a stretchy tape measure .

You do realise that you keep growing after the age of 13 dont you?

Maybe they stand on the bottom couple of inches of the tape when they getting their height measured .

Is Robbie 5ft 5 or 5ft 7 ?

no one ever told me

You must be one of the tallest in The Shire though ?

Never gets old

..just to be clear Ashley Gibson is... the same height as my wife's younger sister.

Explains a lot

I remember being 5'10 when I was 12. Had a growth spurt didn't I. Then I reached my fighting height at 16 and havent really grown since.

Fact

No really, it is!

I hit 6' aged 14 but due to having a ‘dysfunctional spine’ I’ve shrunk to 5’ 11.5” FACT (honestly)

Fine, take the p***.

See if I care!