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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"No, read it.'"
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Erm my point was towards Sinfield, please try and keep up, I know you're been playing out with it being the Easter holidays but come on, at least try.'"
Bollox yer making out that wilkin is a better player/13 than sinfield so what did he do at international level.????
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| Quote ="rhinoms"The same 1 that won him a tri-nations by nilling the "untouchable" aussie's and to within a point of defending it???
Go away troll you aren't even using quality material
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Yes, a team which Bluey admitted coached itself with the likes of Wiki and Vangana, you arent doing very well here are you?
Do you now also think that being a International Coach transfers to week on week NRL/ESL RL?
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| Quote ="efcrhino"You're post replying to it is pointless!
McClennan's tactics was one of the main reasons we won the GF, kicking early and the kicking game overall was the main factor in our tactical victory.'"
You mean a tactic employed by Smith the season before?
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Erm my point was towards Sinfield, please try and keep up, I know you're been playing out with it being the Easter holidays but come on, at least try.'"
So far your points our Wilkin is better than Sinfield and Bluey is a rubbish coach, they're opinions, here are facts:
Brian McClennan won the Grand Final in his first year
Brian McClennan won the World Club Challenge in his first year
Brian McClennan won the tri-nations with New Zealand
Kevin Sinfield has captained the side to 3 Grand Final sucsesses and 2 World Club Challenges.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"Bollox yer making out that wilkin is a better player/13 than sinfield so what did he do at international level.????'"
I arent making anything out, Wilkin is a better player than Sinfield who has had his chance at International level and bombed that badly his old club coach blew him out!!
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Yes, a team which Bluey admitted coached itself with the likes of Wiki and Vangana, you arent doing very well here are you?
Do you now also think that being a International Coach transfers to week on week NRL/ESL RL?'"
No he just makes the tea and tells them how good they are!!
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| Quote ="efcrhino"So far your points our Wilkin is better than Sinfield and Bluey is a rubbish coach, they're opinions, here are facts:
Brian McClennan won the Grand Final in his first year
Brian McClennan won the World Club Challenge in his first year
Brian McClennan won the tri-nations with New Zealand
Kevin Sinfield has captained the side to 3 Grand Final sucsesses and 2 World Club Challenges.'"
Add - in three big games (his target games), lost 3.
I have answered your other points in previous posts so i wont repeat myself.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"You mean a tactic employed by Smith the season before?
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He used it, it worked, we won, what more could we have asked of bluey?
Your points are utter rubbish, so far all you have stated is that you think bluey is a rubbish coach and Wilkin is better than Sinfield, you have absolutely nothing to back those points up with therefore you don't have an argument.
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| In regards to this thread i am still confident that Leeds can beat St Helens when the occasion is needed ie Grand Final time, We haven't seen Leeds hit top gear yet this year and it is bound to come at some point...
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Add - in three big games (his target games), lost 3.
I have answered your other points in previous posts so i wont repeat myself.'"
So someone is only a good coach if they win everything???
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| Quote ="rhinoms"No he just makes the tea and tells them how good they are!!'"
At last, thats Blueys coaching style, it wasnt that hard was it?
Arm round shoulder, cuddle, hugs, man management - sunshine and lollipops!!
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"I arent making anything out, Wilkin is a better player than Sinfield who has had his chance at International level and bombed that badly his old club coach blew him out!!'"
So Wilkin did anything special at the World Cup then?
And it's I am not btw.
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"At last, thats Blueys coaching style, it wasnt that hard was it?
Arm round shoulder, cuddle, hugs, man management - sunshine and lollipops!!'"
And Daniel Andersons' rant at half time in the Grand Final worked didn't it?
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"Add - in three big games (his target games), lost 3.
I have answered your other points in previous posts so i wont repeat myself.'"
So I can add in the Challenge Cup Quarter Final against Wigan, the game at Knowsley Road, the play off game against Wigan as well then!
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| Quote ="The Magic Wand"I arent making anything out, Wilkin is a better player than Sinfield who has had his chance at International level and bombed that badly his old club coach blew him out!!'"
Is a āMagic Wandā a euphemism for a penis?
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| Quote ="rhinoms"No i didn't
I said hall did well when he played there!'"
And so he did the once it happened but what I recall you saying was that he had played well all the times he had played there. If it happened more than once than state when it was and I'll happily retract that comment.
Quote ="rhinoms"As for gibson you do know he played in 06 don't you??'"
Did he, how about knowing he played in 2005 as well. Do I get a brownie point now?
Quote ="rhinoms"You do know he has played more than once in the centre/wing at 1st team level and you do know he's played for england and did well. I've based my opinion on what i've seen when he's played well before his injury'"
Any examples of these games where he played well or are they just the usual general recollections with nothing specific of note to recall.
Quote ="rhinoms"I'm prepared to give the lad a chance what's the problem??'"
There's no problem if you're prepared to settle for average players that are in and out of the team simply making the numbers up. The notion that he's somehow a potential successor to a Keith Senior is where it goes a bit pear shaped.
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| Quote ="tvoc"And so he did the once it happened but what I recall you saying was that he had played well all the times he had played there. If it happened more than once than state when it was and I'll happily retract that comment.
Did he, how about knowing he played in 2005 as well. Do I get a brownie point now?
Any examples of these games where he played well or are they just the usual general recollections with nothing specific of note to recall.
There's no problem if you're prepared to settle for average players that are in and out of the team simply making the numbers up. The notion that he's somehow a potential successor to a Keith Senior is where it goes a bit pear shaped.'"
I just remember him doing well in the match's he played 1 that stand's out was leigh away (his debut) IIRC and he didn't seem out of his depth in any other match's he played imo.
I'm not saying he's a keith senior i just think he deserve's a longer run in the team after his long lay off before we dismiss him as "had it".
Maybe i do"over-rate"him if he fails this year i will happily admit i was wrong but i do think your harsh on him mate.
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I just remember him doing well in the match's he played 1 that stand's out was leigh away (his debut) IIRC and he didn't seem out of his depth in any other match's he played imo.
I'm not saying he's a keith senior i just think he deserve's a longer run in the team after his long lay off before we dismiss him as "had it".
Maybe i do"over-rate"him if he fails this year i will happily admit i was wrong but i do think your harsh on him mate.'"
IIRC isnāt Gibson the second ever highest scoring debutant ā 1 point behind John Holmes?
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| [size=117Brian McClennan:[/size
Hibiscus Coast Raiders:
2001 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
2001 Bartercard Cup Champions
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2002, 2004 & 2005 Bartercard Cup Champions
2002 & 2005 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
New Zealand:
2005 Gillette Rugby League Tri-Nations series
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2006 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
2006 Bartercard Cup Champions
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2008 World Club Challenge
2008 Super League Grand Final
Now to me it looks like no matter what the level is it seems Brian McClennan has always been a winner no matter where he has coached and he has proved he can do it on all levels, Mick Potter on the other hand as a Coach to my knowledge has won *[iInsert Here[/i*...
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| Quote ="rhinoms"I'm not saying he's a keith senior i just think he deserve's a longer run in the team after his long lay off before we dismiss him as "had it".
Maybe i do"over-rate"him if he fails this year i will happily admit i was wrong but i do think your harsh on him mate.'"
Fair enough. I'll settle for that.
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| Quote ="tvoc"Fair enough. I'll settle for that.'"
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| Quote ="The JokerĀ®"[size=117Brian McClennan:[/size
Hibiscus Coast Raiders:
2001 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
2001 Bartercard Cup Champions
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2002, 2004 & 2005 Bartercard Cup Champions
2002 & 2005 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
New Zealand:
2005 Gillette Rugby League Tri-Nations series
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2006 Bartercard Cup Minor Premiers
2006 Bartercard Cup Champions
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2008 World Club Challenge
2008 Super League Grand Final
Now to me it looks like no matter what the level is it seems Brian McClennan has always been a winner no matter where he has coached and he has proved he can do it on all levels, Mick Potter on the other hand as a Coach to my knowledge has won *[iInsert Here[/i*...'"
Has he won the North West Counties too?
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| Quote ="The JokerĀ®" Mick Potter on the other hand as a Coach to my knowledge has won *[i05-04-09 Challenge Cup 4th Round Away at Leeds[/i*...'"
That's enough for this week.
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