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| an old guy in the seat right behind me had a heart attack today after about 5 minutes of the game. we straight away told a steward we needed a paramedic. i am a first aider and sat near me was a nurse. we told the steward to call an ambulance.
she called the st johns who took 8 minutes to arrive and immediately said"why wasn't an ambulance called?".
it then took 13 minutes for the paramedics to arrive by which time the man could have been dead.
we, although we we didn't mind, sat on the steps for the whole of the first half.
surely medical facilities should be on site when so many people were there, the young lass who was a steward was clueless and nobody else, fans apart seemed interested.
the guy seemed to be ok as he left.next time he may not be as lucky
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Hope he's ok mate,you should contact the club and tell them what happened because that's poor.
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| jeez
hate to imagine if something like that happened at the back of the south stand
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| Jeez, hope he's okay, complain about it, today was just a poor day on behalf of the headingley ground staff/steward, Who's ever idea it was to cut off the back of the north stand, is a utter idiot.
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| Quote ="LeedsRL1994"Jeez, hope he's okay, complain about it, today was just a poor day on behalf of the headingley ground staff/steward, Who's ever idea it was to cut off the back of the north stand, is a utter idiot.'"
You can't use that route now on a sunday if we're playing cos ours it is!!!!
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Colin Graves
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| Quote ="LeedsRL1994"Jeez, hope he's okay, complain about it, today was just a poor day on behalf of the headingley ground staff/steward, Who's ever idea it was to cut off the back of the north stand, is a utter idiot.'"
How did you manage to miss the fact that a cricket game was on?
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| Quote ="Ouzo"How did you manage to miss the fact that a cricket game was on?'"
If those people had been sad enough to want to watch a game of cricket they would have paid for it earlier.
There is no reason why they could not have managed to steward people to the right entrances of the rugby match stopping anyone who dawdles to watch the cricket, and moving them on.
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| Quote ="Lawrie L"jeez
hate to imagine if something like that happened at the back of the south stand
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It did / has ... The response was equally as poor from the stewards.
Surely for their cost, the club could run to a de-fib kit ?
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"It did / has ... The response was equally as poor from the stewards.
Surely for their cost, the club could run to a de-fib kit ?'"
Good point
had forgot about that, was in last few years as well
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| Quote ="tad rhino"an old guy in the seat right behind me had a heart attack today after about 5 minutes of the game. we straight away told a steward we needed a paramedic. i am a first aider and sat near me was a nurse. we told the steward to call an ambulance.
she called the st johns who took 8 minutes to arrive and immediately said"why wasn't an ambulance called?".
it then took 13 minutes for the paramedics to arrive by which time the man could have been dead.
we, although we we didn't mind, sat on the steps for the whole of the first half.
surely medical facilities should be on site when so many people were there, the young lass who was a steward was clueless and nobody else, fans apart seemed interested.
the guy seemed to be ok as he left.next time he may not be as lucky'"
I was sitting just along the row with my lad and couldn't quite believe the apparent lack of urgency. I'm not a medic, mind.
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| it was appalling the time it took to get help there
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it was appalling the time it took to get help there'"
and the paramedics couldn't get past the ice cream/pie and peas/burger ques.
And while we're on it why don't the stewards check entry onto the carnegie terrace these days.I mean ANYONE could get in.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it was appalling the time it took to get help there'" Seriously tad, you should bring this to the clubs attention. Appalling.
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| i could be wrong but i don't think there was an ambulance on site. i'm sure i heard this said.
i thought you had to have a certain number depending on the size of the crowd
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| Quote ="tad rhino"i could be wrong but i don't think there was an ambulance on site. i'm sure i heard this said.
i thought you had to have a certain number depending on the size of the crowd'"
There was a paramedic ambulance just outside the club shop at half time.
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| The St Johns station is in a room underneath the Headingley Lodge isn't it ?
Thats about two minutes walk from the Carnegie Stand - if you dawdle.
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| Quote ="McLaren_Field"The St Johns station is in a room underneath the Headingley Lodge isn't it ?
Thats about two minutes walk from the Carnegie Stand - if you dawdle.'"
They have a very large supply of polos on hand for the sick and injured.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"it was appalling the time it took to get help there'"
Agree it took far too long for the paramedics to get there to say it seemed right from the start that it was a medical emergency.
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| Quote ="tad rhino"an old guy in the seat right behind me had a heart attack today after about 5 minutes of the game. we straight away told a steward we needed a paramedic. i am a first aider and sat near me was a nurse. we told the steward to call an ambulance.
she called the st johns who took 8 minutes to arrive and immediately said"why wasn't an ambulance called?".
it then took 13 minutes for the paramedics to arrive by which time the man could have been dead.
we, although we we didn't mind, sat on the steps for the whole of the first half.
surely medical facilities should be on site when so many people were there, the young lass who was a steward was clueless and nobody else, fans apart seemed interested.
the guy seemed to be ok as he left.next time he may not be as lucky'"
I sit 5 seats away from the gentleman in question and if it hadnt have been for the two ladies who sit next to him i dont know what would have happened. It was scandolous how long it took any medical staff to arrive. I honestly thought he was dead. The stewards all just stood around looking at each other and when the st johns turned up it seemed to be ages before the actual paramedics turned up. Fortunately the gentleman seemed to be coherent when they eventually got him onto a stretcher chair to get him downstairs. I have to confess it didnt look good at one point and the stewards seemed to have no idea what to do. Surely they must have to have some sort of first aid training?
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| Quote ="AdmiralHanson"It did / has ... The response was equally as poor from the stewards.
Surely for their cost, the club could run to a de-fib kit ?'" When covering such a big crowd I would be shocked if St John didn't have a De-fib on site - but of course a heart attack doesn't always require a de-fib but one should have been available if needed.
IMO the steward should have radioed immediately for medical help and first aiders should have been on the scene within minutes (I assume they station themselves throughout the ground as well having one main base). For it to take so long for assistance to arrive something has gone wrong somewhere in the communication chain and it is essential you report your concerns the the Club (and possibly also South and West Yorks SJA too) in order to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again..
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| It would be far better if Luke Burgess learnt how to catch a ball.He nearly caused 14000 heart attacks this aft.
Joking apart,hope the guy in question is ok!
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| Quote ="gateaux"When covering such a big crowd I would be shocked if St John didn't have a De-fib on site - but of course a heart attack doesn't always require a de-fib but one should have been available if needed.
The de fib only arrived when the actual paramedics turned up which must have been at least 20mins after the original incident now im no doc but surely that would be too late!!
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| Quote ="chrisrhino09"
The de fib only arrived when the actual paramedics turned up which must have been at least 20mins after the original incident now im no doc but surely that would be too late!!'" Hard to say without being there, depends on the situation but I would hope one would be on site - if not that seems a massive oversight imo. If one was needed then yes but it may not have been needed depending on what had happened.
As I said in situations like this those concerned are best putting their concerns in writing to those involved to try to prompt an investigation.
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| This frightens me.
If I were ever going to have a heart attack one of the best places I could think of to be (apart from the A&E dept at the LGI) would be in a packed stand at a ‘well equipped’ sport stadium with medical facilities close to hand.
Hopefully this incident will highlight the need for better trained stewards instead of clueless 20 year old students in florescent oversized coats whose only prerequisite for the job seems to be a gormless expression.
Hope this guy makes a fast a full recovery.
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| Quote ="gateaux"When covering such a big crowd I would be shocked if St John didn't have a De-fib on site - but of course a heart attack doesn't always require a de-fib but one should have been available if needed.
IMO the steward should have radioed immediately for medical help and first aiders should have been on the scene within minutes (I assume they station themselves throughout the ground as well having one main base). For it to take so long for assistance to arrive something has gone wrong somewhere in the communication chain and it is essential you report your concerns the the Club (and possibly also South and West Yorks SJA too) in order to ensure that something like this doesn't happen again..'"
I'm a first aid instructor trainer amongst my many talents, so if the club want some training, they know who to call.
My incident took place in the middle of the South Stand, during a packed game. Thankfully, the incident in question wasn't a serious one, but it 'could' have been ...
The stewarding was clueless, witnessed by several other people who post on this board and who backed up my assesment of the situation.
As for bringing this to the club's attention, I did ... Both directly after the event and subsequently in writing. I even offered to give them some advise on how to make their system more robust ... I wasn't even afforded a half-decent reply by the director in question (now no longer with the club)
One of these days, the club could potentially face a serious incident with an individual. Something that could be subject to an investigation or even civil proceedings .... A lot of expensive chickens could come home to roost.
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