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| Also, you can really tell where Brad takes over - The warning about bad language is there for a reason.
You can really tell the difference in styles between Rohan and Arthur.
Rohan seemed very calm, liked to put arms round players, was constantly trying to get players to "buy in" to the system, seemed to focus on positives but seemed there was always case of jam tomorrow or "we'll get 'em next time"
There just didn't seem (at least to me) there was any culpability for not achieving the goals being set by the coaching staff, the same mistakes and errors were being served up week after week but there just didn't seem to be any penalties / jeopardy for not doing what they had been instructed to do.
Brad on the other hand and his "Firm but fair" outlook instantly set boundaries and goals for players and called them out when they are not doing it. The little thing for me was after a game and they all came in and grabbed a beer, he let it go the first week but told them straight away they wouldn't get a beer if we'd lost in future and they had to earn it.
He is very, very sweary and I guess some people like that gruff nature, a guy wholl kick you up the arris if you stray from the path but will look after you if your prepared to get better.
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| It's a difference between coaching the U9's and Open Age. It's not necessarily about the sweary language, but it is about making people responsible for what they do. That would help us across the piece at the moment outside of RL too. The only person responsible for you is you.
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| Smith's approach would probably have worked fine with a team that knew what it was doing as well. I doubt Sinfield and co would have needed to be sworn at to know what needed fixing, or to take personal responsibility for it. When you have a team with a mindset that seemingly being paid to play is enough and no leaders in the group to pull the team out of it, you need something more.
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| Exactly. This is why I'm not convinced by the hyperbole of having landed Arthur as coach. It’s all just words until the players make it otherwise. And there's an awful lot of ours who've played under 3, 4 or 5 coaches without looking remotely like serial winners.
I'll be delighted when the boys prove me wrong.
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| I agree with Once were Loiners and Clearwing. Coaching philosophies are just that - ultimately it is the responsibilty of the players to perform on the field.
Re: Smith, I agree his approach was good for players with the right attitude, i.e. good professionals at various career stages who are willing to learn and work on doing things differently (if needed). Players like O'Connor and Handley really came along under Smith, and senior players like Martin were consistently good for us.
On the flip side, Smith wasn't good at dealing with more difficult personalities in the senior group (Austin etc), as well as lazier types who would go through the motions instead of work on their game (perhaps Lisone, Sangare etc). It sounds like Smith wasn't direct enough in dealing with disciplinary and contractual issues, which at best meant 'no change' or at worst fanned the flames leaving to acrimonious fall outs.
I'd imagine Arthur's approach will be better for dealing with the likes of personalities like Newman and Bentley, the lazier types, and perhaps also players willing to work that are down on confidence (e.g. Miller, Nicholson-Watton). At the same time, I do worry a bit about what happens when the team run into a brick wall - they can't actually give any more (re: Brian Mac days of running the senior players into the ground), or they just come up against better opposition (will Arthur have a plan B?). I have a sense that Smith might be better in such situations when the overall quality of the playing roster is higher, but he's less good at the foundational aspects of what a RL team needs.
It's going to be fascinating to see how the season goes.
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