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| I don't want to cause any arguments but does anyone think we will ever get our stadium???? Richard Wright has been promising it for about 10 years and still no brick has being laid, around 5 years ago they put a sign up saying "Waystone, new home of Castleford Tigers" and had a digger that was up there for about 2 years and still nothing has been done and the sign now has fallen down and no digger.
I know we have the trouble with Opus and selling our stadium, but surely we could get someone else to buy our stadium? Other teams have. I just don't think we will get the stadium in the next 20 years
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| Yes. RW has made serious moves to get a stadium five years ago in 2006.
These things take time - it is a major project and it's not just done overnight. The money we're getting as part of the supermarket deal is far more than we would ever get anywhere else.
The situation is as such that it is in the hands of third parties who are not under the pressures of licensing and do not have any obligations to be swift for Cas. The RFL are fully aware of this and are being kept abreast of the situation and remain understanding and supportive.
I know it sounds silly and it'll probably be dismissed (and I have absolutely no doubt where it will come from) but please do keep faith. It will happen.
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| I just think we will be the next for the chop as we have made no progress off the ptich and declined on the pitch
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| Quote ="castigersdave"I just think we will be the next for the chop as we have made no progress off the ptich and declined on the pitch'"
There are three years to a licence.
We were not the worst club in the last round of licences - far from it in fact.
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| Quote ="Fully"There are three years to a licence.
We were not the worst club in the last round of licences - far from it in fact.'"
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| I'll be keeping an eye on this thread....
As for far from the worst applicant - I'd agree, Cas were better than 2 of the "B" grade teams and both the "C" grade teams around them...how Cas didn't get a "B" is bizarre.
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| Quote ="Fully"There are three years to a licence.'"
There are, but the licence came with an explicit warning that it could be removed at any time from those clubs who fail to make good on their promises; I don't think anyone is under any illusion which clubs the RFL were talking to when they made that statement.
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| 2 supermarket companies are interested - we now have it down to 1. This has gone to the BOD (of the supermarket chain) for approval. Patience required.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"I'll be keeping an eye on this thread....
As for far from the worst applicant - I'd agree, Cas were better than 2 of the "B" grade teams and both the "C" grade teams around them...how Cas didn't get a "B" is bizarre.'"
Exactly. I would be more worried about the situation Bradford are in the Castleford. At least we have assets that we actually own!
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| Quote ="bren2k"There are, but the licence came with an explicit warning that it could be removed at any time from those clubs who fail to make good on their promises; I don't think anyone is under any illusion which clubs the RFL were talking to when they made that statement.'"
But the promises are being fulfilled. The RFL cannot force these things in the current economic climate and they have to show a little understanding.
You also keep believing that the stadium is the only relevant factor; it isn't. Cas will be a B licence once the stadium starts getting built.
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| Quote ="Fumper27"Exactly. I would be more worried about the situation Bradford are in the Castleford. At least we have assets that we actually own!'"
I own a set of Titleist golf clubs I cannot sell, am I asking too much for them?
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| Quote ="Fully"But the promises are being fulfilled. The RFL cannot force these things in the current economic climate and they have to show a little understanding.
You also keep believing that the stadium is the only relevant factor; it isn't. Cas will be a B licence once the stadium starts getting built.'"
What promise has been fulfilled ?? we have no stadium and no new news ??
If RW was a player giving 110% he would still not get a new contract because try as he may he is not delivering the Goods, End Of
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| Quote ="binks"What promise has been fulfilled ?? we have no stadium and no new news ??
If RW was a player giving 110% he would still not get a new contract because try as he may he is not delivering the Goods, End Of'"
We have full planning permission for a new stadium. We can build the new stadium tomorrow if we wanted. There IS going to be a stadium.
Just because we don't have news, doesn't mean the RFL don't. As I've said, they are fully aware of the situation and are fully appreciative of that.
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| Your funny man!
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| Quote ="Fully"We have full planning permission for a new stadium. =#FF0000We can build the new stadium tomorrow if we wanted. There IS going to be a stadium.
Just because we don't have news, doesn't mean the RFL don't. As I've said, they are fully aware of the situation and are fully appreciative of that.'"
The obvious question is if you can, why isn't it there???
Your simplification of the situation is in stark contrast to what everyone can see and defies what blatantly is hampering you thus far, it makes you stand out as a beacon of hope in bleak isolation I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"The obvious question is if you can, why isn't it there???
Your simplification of the situation is in stark contrast to what everyone can see and defies what blatantly is hampering you thus far, it makes you stand out as a beacon of hope in bleak isolation I'm afraid.'"
The simple fact: we don't have the money. And it's generally more expensive to build it in stages.
Our primary asset needs to be sold before it can be built. If we had £15m it would be built tomorrow.
That is the reality of the situation.
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| Then you cannot build a stadium tomorrow then.
That is the actual reality of the situation.
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| Quote ="kinleycat"Then you cannot build a stadium tomorrow then.
That is the actual reality of the situation.'"
You misread the context of what I meant in a sense: I was merely pointing out that we CAN build the stadium - there are no planning hurdles from preventing us from doing so. If you read the first line of my comment, you would have understood that.
As it is, your comments could be conceived as a very well hidden attempt at trolling.
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| Quote ="Fully"You misread the context of what I meant in a sense: I was merely pointing out that we CAN build the stadium - there are no planning hurdles from preventing us from doing so. If you read the first line of my comment, you would have understood that.
As it is, your comments could be conceived as a very well hidden attempt at trolling.'"
I think i read what you posted, which was misleading.
Anyhow its all cleared up now!
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| Not misleading in any way. We have full planning permission, therefore, we can legally start building the stadium tomorrow. The only issue is funding, which is currently tied up in asset.
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| It will be very interesting after next week when Wakey get their full planning permission. They have the funds (they claim) so no doubt building will start straight away. Or will it ?
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| Quote ="Fully"We have full planning permission for a new stadium. We can build the new stadium tomorrow if we wanted. There IS going to be a stadium.
Just because we don't have news, doesn't mean the RFL don't. As I've said, they are fully aware of the situation and are fully appreciative of that.'"
Now we've cleared up that little issue.
Can you explain your certainty over "There IS going to be a stadium"? because i can see no concrete evidence of this.
I can see how you have reasons for some optimism, but that is a long way from guaranteeing what you need (i.e the money required) to complete the task.
That is a huge guarantee with little by way of evidence to back it up, and you can understand peoples scepticism?
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| Quote ="Fully"Not misleading in any way. We have full planning permission, therefore, we can legally start building the stadium tomorrow. The only issue is funding, which is currently tied up in asset.'"
Of course its misleading, you cannot start to build, without any money to pay for the job which you don't have yet, legal paperwork or otherwise.
Sometimes Fully you make simplicity so difficult!!!
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| Quote ="Tigerade"It will be very interesting after next week when Wakey get their full planning permission. They have the funds (they claim) so no doubt building will start straight away. Or will it ?'"
That we will soon see (fingers crossed) i would hope that following a short delay (which i am lead to believe will be for the FPP to be agreed) we will be moving men and equipment quickly.
I'm sure SWAG or I_A will be able to clarify this for you, it is after all a time consuming exercise all this building lark.
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| I like your confidence regarding funding KC. Must be nice to be in WTW's position.
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