Yeah just seen it. Oh well hopefully we will be able to find someone else

I'm all for signing the young ones up from here and the NRL but I do still think we need some experience signings as well

It is disappointing but I think there are many more fringe 1st grade players over in Australia who we will Be looking at. No great loss regarding squad strength because we will find someone else but annoying all the same when we do the work in getting him out of contract with Knights.
I think we need to tighten up at the club regarding protocol on signing announcements also. I heard we had signed Mika on Monday 26th September – 18 days ago. I would rather us not let the info out until all the detail has been completed – we never seem to learn from past mistakes do we?

That's the difficulty though - plenty of fans have been asking for info about signings and the club probably thought they had the signing in the bag and weren't doing anything wrong by announcing that they hoped to confirm a signing from the NRL soon.

Players agents are generally the driving force in a deal and you can bet that even had Cas kept everything completely under wraps the agent would have alerted Hull KR to his players availability.

No great loss to my mind. There will be plenty of comparable players available when Millward goes looking. Its possible that we could be the one's doing the gazumping next time...

You could be right as there are 21 English players in the squad including 17 local born players

Announcing a squad with 96 English players is no good if only 5 or 6 of them play each week.

How many english players are first choice players hull kr?

With a new coach who knows? Last season an average of 10 English players were first choice

Which 10 English players were first choice and which Aussies were squad players being kept out of the team by english players?

Hull KR had 8 overseas players last season and they didn't all play in every match so take your pick who missed out

3- Hall, Welham and Hodgson in the starting 13.

So when you were saying that english players were first choice you meant back up for when the aussies got injured?

Is that Dave or Josh??? What about Taylor and Cox and even Liam watts??????

What english players are first choice at hull kr then?

You mean Liam Watts who is from Cas?

8?

Webster
Green
Dobson
Clinton
Vella
Fisher
Lovegrove
Newton
Galea

Add Mason to that as he played.

So thats 10.

Before posting why not check if your info is correct?

Cas was in england the last time I checked

First choice? Matter of opinion I suppose.

But in our final regular season game of 2011 against...Castleford.......the Hull KR team featured 9 English born players.

In season 2012 HullKR will have 32 full time players 27 of whom are eligible to play for England.

One who isn't will be Con Mika.......but who knows if he stays with us for 2 years 9 months maybe he'll be in the England frame too just like someone else we know.

Look I'm not having a go at anyone here but don't you think that if you have an issue it is with the RFL ? If they are going to let players represent England after 2 years 9 months then they can hardly object to the same players being in Super League.

Basically Hull KR have a mix of Hull born players (17 of them in 2012) and overseas born players. We don't have many West Yorks or Lancs players but so what? There's plenty of clubs in those parts for those players to choose from.

I can promise you that the Hull KR youth system is starting to produce a whole load of fantastic young players. We started from scratch 5 years ago, loads of time effort and money has been pumped into it and it is now starting to bear fruit.

Prior to that we had no chance whatsoever. We had been in the lower leagues for over a decade so guess where the best local youngsters went to even Hull KR fans like Richard Horne & Paul Cooke?

No more though. Look we all admire the youth production system at Cas and it is something we aspire to. Rome wasn't built in a day but in the meantime we wanted to establish ourselves in Super League and we have done.

Good luck for 2012 you have a good coach in Ian Millward and I'm sure you'll do OK.

This might be the case, but my worry is that these "fantastic young players" will never get a shot at being a first-team regulars owing to the number of overseas players HKR sign, therefore restricting their developlment and opportunities for improvement.

His info would be correct as they were all born overseas and therefore not English, correct?

Hull Fc were the only team NOT to give 1 youngster a SL debut last season,
Think you'll find that we gave debuts to Louis Sheriff,Rich Beaumont and Jordan Cox.


In answer to earlier question,-
English players who played regular for us last year were,
Shaun Briscoe,
Sam Latus,
Kris Welham,
Ben Cockayne,
Craig Hall,
Liam Colbon,
Scott Wheeldon,
Josh Hodgson,
Scott Taylor,
Jason Netherton,
Liam Watts,
Scott Murrell,
Jordan Cox(back end of the season)

Mulder's reply to pyeman is correct Hull KR never had more than 8 overseas players registered to play last season.
Fisher, Vella, Webster, Green, Galea, Newton, Clinton, Dobson or Mason.
Rhys Lovegrove is home grown

Have you forgot Peter Fox

Think the reason Hull KR are getting it in the neck here about an abundance of overseas players is purely and simply cos you signed an overseas player that we were hoping to get.

ATEOD as Cas fans we shouldn't give a tuppeny fig about how many overseas players other clubs have in their squads unless they're a boat load of NRL star players which clearly Hull KR aren't.

The fact they're not NRL stars makes it doubly worse, mate. They are taking up spots that English players could be doing.

Agreed and if it was happening at Cas I would be complaining but all we can do is get our house in order and leave other clubs to worry about their own.

Cas embraced the idea that 3 year franchises mean you don't need to look for short term solutions in the form of mediocre overseas players. It seems Hull KR aren't prepared to let go of that safety blanket just yet...