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| Quote ="Tigerade"I like your confidence regarding funding KC. Must be nice to be in WTW's position.'"
I am just fine and dandy over it all, I'm sure everything will fall into place and equally i hope you get your issues sorted too.
I would see no benefit to WTWs position in SL or the district as a RL whole, if Cas failed to deliver and i can think of numerous clubs less worthy of a place in SL.
But these are the realities of life in SL.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"It will be very interesting after next week when Wakey get their full planning permission. They have the funds (they claim) so no doubt building will start straight away. Or will it ?'"
I'm not sure it's as straightforward as that - the developer will still need to obtain detailed planning permission, but my understanding is that the work is virtually done and it will be ready to submit relatively quickly - I think it then has about a 5 week turnaround.
Following that, it will of course come down to funding, although with the news that Langtree are involved, that might be less of a hurdle than we thought.
Either way, at this stage things are looking brighter for us, although it's by no means the end of the story; this is WTW after all!
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| Full PP is usually 8-12 weeks Bren in terms of WMDC's turnaround for planning.
And Kinley, I'm pretty sure you're just stirring for the sake of it now. I knew it would descend down this path as soon as I posted: you Wakey lot just simply cannot resist.
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| Quote ="Fully"Full PP is usually 8-12 weeks Bren in terms of WMDC's turnaround for planning.
And Kinley, I'm pretty sure you're just stirring for the sake of it now. I knew it would descend down this path as soon as I posted: you Wakey lot just simply cannot resist.'"
I've seen 5 weeks somewhere - maybe WMDC have agreed to push it through quicker? Either way, Sir Rodney Walker has indicated that with a positive deicison from the PI, the Trust would envision the stadium being ready during the 2014 season.
I don't think Kinley is stirring to be honest - you have to admit that saying "we could build it tomorrow" was a bit of an open goal!
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| Can still see us both sharing a ground to be honest. If all goes well next week it will be at NM.
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| But we can build it tomorrow? There is nothing false with that statement in any sense. We can start digging and start laying bricks. We wouldn't get very far in building something looking like a stadium but nonetheless we can start tomorrow because we have full planning permission. Simples really.
As for 5 weeks, I'm not sure where that would come from? My understanding is that irrespective of the type of planning, they all usually take the same amount of time although admittedly I'd guess that Outline PP takes much longer than Full PP to go through.
But as I was ridiculed on the other thread on the VT for, I would guess that this is based on everything being a best-cae scenario. I still believe that several conditions would have to be met and who knows what the Gov't will do if it does get the green light.
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| Quote ="supercat"Can still see us both sharing a ground to be honest. If all goes well next week it will be at NM.'"
Hope not - that would be the death of CT. No doubt that is what some posters on here would like to see happen.
If the rumours are to be believed regarding a take-over at CT I honestly think we will be staying at Wheldon Road.
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| Quote ="Tigerade"If the rumours are to be believed regarding a take-over at CT I honestly think we will be staying at Wheldon Road.'"
That might not be such a bad idea - you could sell the lease to the RFL to raise a load of capital, then rent it back from them for a market rate.
Oh, hang on...
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| Quote ="Fully"Full PP is usually 8-12 weeks Bren in terms of WMDC's turnaround for planning.
And Kinley, I'm pretty sure you're just stirring for the sake of it now. I knew it would descend down this path as soon as I posted: you Wakey lot just simply cannot resist.'"
Certainly not, but if you keep peddling the myth be prepared to be challenged.
Without the money you cannot and will not build, if you could I'm sure you would have by now, everyone knows the importance of these grounds, why wait if you can build tomorrow??
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| Quote ="Tigerade"If the rumours are to be believed regarding a take-over at CT I honestly think we will be staying at Wheldon Road.'"
Hardly, the supposed interested party have a main goal of getting the new stadium built ASAP and the name floating around have the funds to chip in a bit each to get it built and sell WR at a later date.
=#FF0000As for the rest of this thread:
Fully: stop posting daft comments about how Cas can start building the stadium tomorrow. It just incites the off topic posts.
Wakefield fans: Stop jumping on everything he says.
This thread is about the proposed stadium at GLASSHOUGHTON not NEWMARKET too so keep on topic.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"
Fully: stop posting daft comments
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| Quote ="Fully"But we can build it tomorrow? There is nothing false with that statement in any sense. =#FF0000We can start digging and start laying bricks. We wouldn't get very far in building something looking like a stadium but nonetheless we can start tomorrow because we have full planning permission. Simples really.
As for 5 weeks, I'm not sure where that would come from? My understanding is that irrespective of the type of planning, they all usually take the same amount of time although admittedly I'd guess that Outline PP takes much longer than Full PP to go through.
But as I was ridiculed on the other thread on the VT for, I would guess that this is based on everything being a best-cae scenario. I still believe that several conditions would have to be met and who knows what the Gov't will do if it does get the green light.'"
Oh i see you!!! should have used the preface "hypothetically" because only in a mad world would that be any basis to build a stadium.
I think you may have taken leave of your senses, because that is without doubt the most barking mad explanation of a point i have ever read.
If that is how you judge progress i can see why you are so in admiration of all things Dickie!!!
I cannot compete with this level of logic (or lack of it)!!!
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| Sorry i was already committed to the last one when you posted Gronk!!
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| Wakefield's ground is a joke. A stand behind the posts with roofing only covering 2/3rd. There are about 8 steel girders with some corregated sheeting on top. Down one side of the ground there is a similar amateurish erection about 30 yards long. If Glover was the rich man he purported to be why didnt he do the job properly. They probably wont get planning permission for the new ground anyway because of all the objections by Leeds City Council Residents.
Doubtful whether Wakefield Met woulld allow two grounds to be built so close to each other. Castleford already have full pllanning permission,Highways would have to be involved to create access from M62. Wakefield may have plans for a new ground but it won't be at Newmarket.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"Wakefield's ground is a joke. A stand behind the posts with roofing only covering 2/3rd. There are about 8 steel girders with some corregated sheeting on top. Down one side of the ground there is a similar amateurish erection about 30 yards long. If Glover was the rich man he purported to be why didnt he do the job properly. They probably wont get planning permission for the new ground anyway because of all the objections by Leeds City Council Residents.
Doubtful whether Wakefield Met woulld allow two grounds to be built so close to each other. Castleford already have full pllanning permission,Highways would have to be involved to create access from M62. Wakefield may have plans for a new ground but it won't be at Newmarket.'"
This post has to be a joke, surely?
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"Wakefield's ground is a joke. A stand behind the posts with roofing only covering 2/3rd. There are about 8 steel girders with some corregated sheeting on top. Down one side of the ground there is a similar amateurish erection about 30 yards long. If Glover was the rich man he purported to be why didnt he do the job properly. They probably wont get planning permission for the new ground anyway because of all the objections by Leeds City Council Residents.
Doubtful whether Wakefield Met woulld allow two grounds to be built so close to each other. Castleford already have full pllanning permission,Highways would have to be involved to create access from M62. Wakefield may have plans for a new ground but it won't be at Newmarket.'"
Be prepared to be disappointed Scabbycat. It will be passed this week. CT need to get a move on.
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| =#FF0000Final warning for everyone - if the thread keeps off-topic and people keep trying to points score the thread will be locked and warnings/bans will be given for the offenders.
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| Quote ="Scabbycat"there is a similar amateurish erection about 30 yards long.'"
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| Best of luck to everyone regarding stadia
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| Quote ="Willzay"Best of luck to everyone regarding stadia
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Well said Willzay, let's hope both clubs get their stadiums passed and built, and then we can continue our local rivalries for years to come.
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| Quote ="Gronk!"Hardly, the supposed interested party have a main goal of getting the new stadium built ASAP and the name floating around have the funds to chip in a bit each to get it built and sell WR at a later date.
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Fully: stop posting daft comments about how Cas can start building the stadium tomorrow. It just incites the off topic posts.
This thread is about the proposed stadium at GLASSHOUGHTON not NEWMARKET too so keep on topic.'"
Erm...it wasn't daft at all - I take insult to that. It was a factual post, which is true. Any stadium thread on here is jumped on by Wakey fans - you should know that by now.
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| Quote ="Fully"Erm...it wasn't daft at all - I take insult to that. It was a factual post, which is true. Any stadium thread on here is jumped on by Wakey fans - you should know that by now.'"
Public criticism of the moderation process is a violation of the AUP.
I suggest that the new Sherrif in town earns his spurs by issuing Fully with a lengthy ban.
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| Quote ="Fully":2vrcf4d8We have full planning permission for a new stadium. We =#FF0000:2vrcf4d8can:2vrcf4d8 build the new stadium tomorrow if we wanted. There IS going to be a stadium.'" :2vrcf4d8
RL forums are not the place for grammar police, but...
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Compare:
We can build a stadium. (have the ability to)
We may build a stadium. (have permission to)
Unfortunately, 'can' has replaced 'may' in most situations in common usage; "can I leave the table?" rather than the seemingly outdated "may I leave the table?" despite being, arguably, incorrect.
Further confusion is caused by 'may' also being used as an expression of permission, possibility or wish.
Previously, 'might' would have been used for possiblity, 'may' for permission and 'can' for ability to avoid all this confusion.
So, in summary
I hope you get there. It would be an excellent achievement for the club and the location is superb.
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| The "teacher" returns ?
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