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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Charlie is currently watching the Alamo , and it reminded me a bit of the DR system , it was the Texans fight , but many other brave men gave their lives including Davy Crockett who was from Tennessee , im sure the HKR boys will give their all for the Fax cause .
There was a Caroli at the Alamo , also a Caroli at Rorkes Drift , and one at the Little Big Horn , we wernt brave , just loved Trouble
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Charlie, hope there wasn't a Caroli at Monte Cassino.
halifaxjohn and halifaxlyn, halifaxjohntowers, a few drinks and a nice meal.
Mmmmmmm
Bed by 10.00.
halifaxmiserablebuggers that's us.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"DR =Rubbish, but hey 2015 comes. Happy New Year to all Fax fans and all RL fans in general, barring bulls fans, obviously!
Sportsman, shudds Mallinsons Citra 4.0 % Mmm!'"
Too right HS nice pint in the Flying Scotsman & Little Plough keep the faith and return to the fold
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| You have to stick with your club.
When Leigh did the partnership with the Pies I put up with it because I knew it could not last forever.
Happy New Year to you all.
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| And you SL,CC + Wolrab in Leytherland look fwd to seeing you all. Regards from Bentley Towers
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Can't add to that Gregg, that's what supporters do.
"Not going again, don't like leaving Thrum Hall"
"Not going again, don't like summer Rugby"
"Not going again, don't like Karl Harrison"
"Not going again don't like Dual Reg"
I think a lot of these people who say "not going again until" do not understand the finances of keeping a club like HALIFAX RLFC going.
So as I have said before, those of you who will walk away, get in touch with the board and tell them the alternative.
I am sure they would appreciate your input.'"
I think all of your above quotes of "not going again" sort of sum up the demise of Halifax RLFC's attendances over the recent 15 years or so, well pointed out JD. What would be the point of contacting the board ? they don't listen to what the supporters want, some of them appear to have the attitude of we'll do what we want anyway. One of the current b.o.d. asked me to "judge us at the end of the season" in an email to me around may last year, well, i've got news for him, the league table & our team's performances judged for themselves, the attendances didn't lie & in my opinion, dropping the reserves & going dual-reg is yet another b.o.d. error, so waiting until the end of 2015 season will be about three or four months too late 'cos there's a split at the end of july and if we cannot finish higher than 5th position it will be disastrous. If we can finish 4th at least, that would make us 8th worst ( or thereabouts ) in the middle eight division, that'll be fun if we can't already compete or beat those above us in the part of the season prior to the split of divisions !
The "finances of the club" as you put it are dependant on the b.o.d. making correct business decisions, i fully understand the concept, IT'S THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS !!!!! Are the club or it's directors prepared to say how much the club shop lost last season yet ?
I'll put a question to you with regards to those who "stayaway" because of the inferior product being served up:
If the chip van allowed it's chips standard to drop so low, would you cease purchasing them ( ie: in RL terms "stayaway" )
or would you contact the proprietor of the chip van service with advice on how to improve his product in the future to sustain & build on it's chip van empire ?
From my point of view, i'd just cut the chips bit out to be honest if they're not up to scratch...
Bolton Brow fisheries, chips with bits, salt n vinegar in paper 0% mmmmmmm
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| But if you'd enjoyed those chips for many years, they were your local chips and you'd have to travel to get any chips or not eat chips at all then might you offer your advice?
You could always eat TV advertised oven ready chips that are all the same but you know you really prefer your locally made ones, don't you?
Any way, hopefully the chips will be good, they'll do well in Blackpool and any big chip competitions that may be around and you can then proudly say that those are your local chips, which may have had to use the odd bag of spuds from East Yorkshire.
Happy New Year to all.
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| Oh chippy chippy!! Chippy chippy chippy chippy chippy chips!
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| Quote from Michael Steele:
" The strategic group has been formed to assist the Directors to look at everything we do and ensure we are working in the right direction, particularly to increase the spectator numbers and improve the match day experience"
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| Would the BOD deliberately make decisions that are not in the interest of the club?
Obviously they wouldn't but sometimes things don't work out as they had planned.
The well known saying "That everyone is wise after the event" comes to mind.
As to listening to supporters that would be a good thing if it could be done.
Just taking the DR topic as a for instance, views range from "never ever", to "no problem", and just about everything in between.
Which ones are they going to listen to without the others saying the are deaf ?
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| Quote ="Norman Bates"So is the non drinking Col. Travers one of your forebears then, just changed his name to get in?'"
Unfortunately no , although I to am a teetotaller , the Carolis were from Bugtussle Tennessee ,neighbours of Davy Crockett .
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| Quote ="bentleyman"And you SL,CC + Wolrab in Leytherland look fwd to seeing you all. Regards from Bentley Towers'"
Happy New Year Michael ,hope things are well in Sunny Bentley ?Wont be long before our trip to the Shay ,will be good to see you again ,you looked very down the last time we met , hope you have cheered up a bit now ?
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| Quote ="marillion man"I think all of your above quotes of "not going again" sort of sum up the demise of Halifax RLFC's attendances over the recent 15 years or so, well pointed out JD. What would be the point of contacting the board ? they don't listen to what the supporters want, some of them appear to have the attitude of we'll do what we want anyway. One of the current b.o.d. asked me to "judge us at the end of the season" in an email to me around may last year, well, i've got news for him, the league table & our team's performances judged for themselves, the attendances didn't lie & in my opinion, dropping the reserves & going dual-reg is yet another b.o.d. error, so waiting until the end of 2015 season will be about three or four months too late 'cos there's a split at the end of july and if we cannot finish higher than 5th position it will be disastrous. If we can finish 4th at least, that would make us 8th worst ( or thereabouts ) in the middle eight division, that'll be fun if we can't already compete or beat those above us in the part of the season prior to the split of divisions !
The "finances of the club" as you put it are dependant on the b.o.d. making correct business decisions, i fully understand the concept, IT'S THE ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS !!!!! Are the club or it's directors prepared to say how much the club shop lost last season yet ?
I'll put a question to you with regards to those who "stayaway" because of the inferior product being served up:
If the chip van allowed it's chips standard to drop so low, would you cease purchasing them ( ie: in RL terms "stayaway" )
or would you contact the proprietor of the chip van service with advice on how to improve his product in the future to sustain & build on it's chip van empire ?
From my point of view, i'd just cut the chips bit out to be honest if they're not up to scratch...
Bolton Brow fisheries, chips with bits, salt n vinegar in paper 0% mmmmmmm'"
Your right Colin, I had never thought of it that way.
I will not go to Leigh as they don't do chips. Workingtons were poor but at least they do them so I will go under protest.
Sheffield, I hate the place and as they don't do chips it will not worry me not going.
I've wasted four trips to Toulouse as they don't do chips so I will be very cross if they are allowed back into our league.
Batley and Keighley you can expect my full support.
As Nelson famously said "I see no Chips"
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Your right Colin, I had never thought of it that way.
I will not go to Leigh as they don't do chips. Workingtons were poor but at least they do them so I will go under protest.
Sheffield, I hate the place and as they don't do chips it will not worry me not going.
I've wasted four trips to Toulouse as they don't do chips so I will be very cross if they are allowed back into our league.
Batley and Keighley you can expect my full support.
As Nelson famously said "I see no Chips"
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No Chips at Leigh John, I will fry you a plate full at Caroli Land, we can't have you not visiting the LSV
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"No Chips at Leigh
John, I will fry you a plate full at Caroli Land, we can't have you not visiting the LSV'"
But they would be Dual Reg chips Charlie, can't have that.
No, I've made up my mind, no chips no Halifaxjohn.
Mind you I could fill up at the Wren, see you there Charlie.
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| I don't know how to do that cut and paste stuff but I would like to direct people to Volltaire's post on the subject on't HKR forum. Says it all. Grove, shudds. Kent Pale 4.0 % Mmm!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I don't know how to do that cut and paste stuff but I would like to direct people to Volltaire's post on the subject on't HKR forum. Says it all. Grove, shudds. Kent Pale 4.0 % Mmm!'"
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere"
Voltaire 1694-1778
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| What is a club like Halifax supposed to do? Find its own second team? How? The old A team system was widespread amongst all the clubs - it was competitive. What we have today is a shambles of a reserve grade comp which is now not worth the investment - especially for a club competing in The Championship on limited resources.
Sometimes you have to go with the flow until a better system emerges or until someone arrives at the club with a wad of cash.
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| Quote ="littlerich"What is a club like Halifax supposed to do? Find its own second team? How? The old A team system was widespread amongst all the clubs - it was competitive. What we have today is a shambles of a reserve grade comp which is now not worth the investment - especially for a club competing in The Championship on limited resources.
Sometimes you have to go with the flow until a better system emerges or until someone arrives at the club with a wad of cash.'"
That would be O.K. if the flow wasn't going the wrong way!
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"
Become Mr Ostrich....Stick your head in't sand. Mrs Hudd-Shay....Sportsman, shudds. 2000-2025pm!
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay" Become Mr Ostrich....Stick your head in't sand. Mrs Hudd-Shay....Sportsman, shudds. 2000-2025pm!
Actually HS it's a myth.
Check it out.
Online quote.
"Ostriches don't bury their heads in the sand—they wouldn't be able to breathe! But they do dig holes in the dirt to use as nests for their eggs.
Several times a day, a bird puts her head in the hole and turns the eggs."
From a distance it just looks that way.
In reality they are handling their responsibilities to look after their offspring and future.
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| Defying logic and against instinct I actually agreed to go to a football match last Saturday. My grandson, Halifaxwilliam, on the right with Grandson Nottinghammatthew bought a scarf, half blue and white for Rochdale and half red and white for Forrest. Halifaxwilliam has agreed to lend it to me on Sunday (he will be wearing his full blue and white) so that I can be seen to be supporting both clubs.
Incidentally, my thoughts on the game of football? Picking up the ball and running with it would improve it no end.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Defying logic and against instinct I actually agreed to go to a football match last Saturday. My grandson, Halifaxwilliam, on the right with Grandson Nottinghammatthew bought a scarf, half blue and white for Rochdale and half red and white for Forrest. Halifaxwilliam has agreed to lend it to me on Sunday (he will be wearing his full blue and white) so that I can be seen to be supporting both clubs.
Incidentally, my thoughts on the game of football? Picking up the ball and running with it would improve it no end.
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By definition you already do "support both clubs" !
Yeah, picking the ball up & running with it would be such an innovation in the footy game, a bit like kicking the ball in RL, to score a try, rather like the modern game whereby approximately 50% of tries are scored from a kick.
Marvellous stuff, learning from other sports.
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| Quote ="marillion man"By definition you already do "support both clubs" !
Yeah, picking the ball up & running with it would be such an innovation in the footy game, a bit like kicking the ball in RL, to score a try, rather like the modern game whereby approximately 50% of tries are scored from a kick.
Marvellous stuff, learning from other sports.'"
Rugby Union owes its current status thanks to the thrashing Wigan gave Bath.
It was a wake up call.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Rugby Union owes its current status thanks to the thrashing Wigan gave Bath.
It was a wake up call.'"
JD, not for the first time, this comment of your's has thrown me !
I don't understand where you're going with that, but if you firmly believe that, good grief !!!!!
Guscott refused to play in that game anyway....
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| Quote ="marillion man"JD, not for the first time, this comment of your's has thrown me !
I don't understand where you're going with that, but if you firmly believe that, good grief !!!!!
Guscott refused to play in that game anyway....
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Guscott did refuse to play, he didn't fancy playing against League men. He did however fancy beating up an old age pensioner a few years later (allegedly)
My point was that Rugby Union was light years behind Rugby Union in fitness, tactics and professionalism.
Until that game how many players had gone to Union from League rather than the other way round.
The pasting Wigan gave them made them sit-up and take notice. Do you remember the goal kicking duties were handed around because the score was not intended to go above 100 for Wigan in the first half.
82-6 with Offiah having one try disallowed.
16 tries, only 9 conversions.
Second half 44-16 Wigan 3 tries 2 conversions.
Don't forget that a few weeks earlier Wigan won the Middlesex 7's.
7 Years later Sale beat StHelens.
That was the point I was trying to get across.
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