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| Quote ="'alifax"Seems reasonable. We give our opponents 48 hours notice on our team selection so that you can decide whether you may or may not attend the game..
Quick question though, if we loan a player from say Warrington for a month to cover an injury, would you attend any of those games?'"
Yeah, to answer your first part of your response, i think they term it at the RFL something like "48 hour 19 man matchday squad" it's been in place for a while now. Working on the assumption that our games will almost exclusively be played on a sunday & SL games can be almost any day or night of the week i reckon at least 17 of the Hull KR boys can sort of be not considered for selection at Halifax, but no doubt this is open to abuse, probably by the parent club.
Yes of course i would, it hasn't stopped me over the last 40-odd years. I'd also watch a team from the lower divisions if we loaned them any of our players too. Nothing much has been mentioned of us bringing players in from a tier below what we play at, think back to Luke Brannigan or his ilk, did us no harm either. I like to see things from every angle & i still conclude that dual-reg is wrong, morally it's wrong, the SL club gets all the SKY money, end of story.
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| Quote ="faxcar"icon_lol.gif That's more like it HS.
What if she was a RED HEAD and spoke with an East Yorkshire accent.
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Could we call her Robyn ?
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| I wonder if the Fax fans posting on here are representative of their fans in general or just a vociferous few. The latter I suspect the same as on all forums.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I wonder if the Fax fans posting on here are representative of their fans in general or just a vociferous few. The latter I suspect the same as on all forums.'"
Which group are you talking about?
What im reading is,the majority dont like it but are happy to go along with it,whilst there are 3 or 4 who are saying thanks but no thanks.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I wonder if the Fax fans posting on here are representative of their fans in general or just a vociferous few. The latter I suspect the same as on all forums.'"
Hello Keith.
There seems to be a wide range of viewpoints on here regarding DR as a whole, a few of them are below and there are likely others as well.
Some will not go to any games as long as Fax are DR linked to any club.
Some will go to games as long as no players from the DR club are in the team.
Some will just keep going as before and see how it works out.
It has nothing to do with the actual link to HKR as such, so it's not a personal thing against you or your club, HKR have a proud history as a club just has Fax have which no one can deny or are trying to do.
Just how the for and against numbers pan out will be seen in how many turn up when the team is picked.
In any case the views on here by anyone are just their views and not really representative of anything other than that.
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| Quote ="faxcar"Hello Keith.
There seems to be a wide range of viewpoints on here regarding DR as a whole, a few of them are below and there are likely others as well.
Some will not go to any games as long as Fax are DR linked to any club.
Some will go to games as long as no players from the DR club are in the team.
Some will just keep going as before and see how it works out.
It has nothing to do with the actual link to HKR as such, so it's not a personal thing against you or your club, HKR have a proud history as a club just has Fax have which no one can deny or are trying to do.
Just how the for and against numbers pan out will be seen in how many turn up when the team is picked.
In any case the views on here by anyone are just their views and not really representative of anything other than that.
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I was not suggesting that it had anything to do with the partner club being HKR. Forums tend to be visited by a very small percentage of fans and commented on by even less. Those anti something tend to be more vociferous than those in favour. I was merely wondering how representative those on here were of the support in general. We will never actually know what the silent majority think. As you say numbers attending this season will give some indication but then again other factors will no doubt play there part.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I was not suggesting that it had anything to do with the partner club being HKR. Forums tend to be visited by a very small percentage of fans and commented on by even less. Those anti something tend to be more vociferous than those in favour. I was merely wondering how representative those on here were of the support in general. We will never actually know what the silent majority think. As you say numbers attending this season will give some indication but then again other factors will no doubt play there part.'"
I think attendances will be up this season & will grow if we prove competitive which in my opinion we will, those on here who have said they will not attend because of DR will be a very small number, maybe some will change there minds when they here from others how we are playing and the different professional attitude the club are showing. The BOD have pulled out all the stops this season and I for one applaud them for that, I hope they are rewarded with a tremendous season.
Happy New Year to all fans of our great game, this season will be a cracker!
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| Quote ="Keiththered"I wonder if the Fax fans posting on here are representative of their fans in general or just a vociferous few. The latter I suspect the same as on all forums.'"
What does it matter? This is a public Forum where People post opinions that are mostly neither right or wrong. I dont Need People who think they know it all to tell me that my opinions are wrong or that I am not a true fan if I dont agree with a decision by my Club. I dont care about Hull KR or any other Club to be honest in the SL. I dont agree with the partnership- thats my opinion whether others like it or not. It doesnt really interest me that others agree or that they will or not attend games. You seem to think ist a good idea. Thats your opinion. I dont tell you that your opinion is right or wrong or whether that covers the opinion of most of HKR fans. Whether i and others like the DRs and Partnership is not going to Change things in the short term. That doesnt mean we are not allowed to post our thoughts. What gives you the right to say why mine and others opinions are wrong or whether we in your words talk for a Group- which we dont as its individual opinions?
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| I've said that I don't agree with DR as it is , in my opinion, for the SL clubs to allow their over sized squads to get game time. To be honest I don't think many people do like it, but the majority accept that it is there. Last season James Laithwaite played for Swinton against us and I thought he was a waste of space, since then he seems to be a regular in the Warrington team so it's either that I am completely wrong or he did not know what moves were taking place or big, numb SL players have no skills other than running in a straight line. I'd say that for a player to drop in on Thursday/ Friday to a squad he is going to find it hard work fitting in to the style of play so how much it will benefit Fax remains to be seen.
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| Quote ="The Lucky Black Cat"What does it matter? This is a public Forum where People post opinions that are mostly neither right or wrong. I dont Need People who think they know it all to tell me that my opinions are wrong or that I am not a true fan if I dont agree with a decision by my Club. I dont care about Hull KR or any other Club to be honest in the SL. I dont agree with the partnership- thats my opinion whether others like it or not. It doesnt really interest me that others agree or that they will or not attend games. You seem to think ist a good idea. Thats your opinion. I dont tell you that your opinion is right or wrong or whether that covers the opinion of most of HKR fans. Whether i and others like the DRs and Partnership is not going to Change things in the short term. That doesnt mean we are not allowed to post our thoughts. What gives you the right to say why mine and others opinions are wrong or whether we in your words talk for a Group- which we dont as its individual opinions?'"
When did I say that your opinion is wrong? It is a your personal view based on limited information and your own prejudices as are all our opinions. An opinion cannot be wrong. It can be agreed with or disagreed with. I happen to disagree with your opinion.
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| I think we all accept that DR isn't right, and as Karl Harrison said, if somethings not right it's wrong. So if it's wrong we shouldn't have owt to do with it. It makes no difference who the 'partnership' involves, it's wrong. It makes no difference who gains or loses out from it, it's wrong. It may help Fax out over a short period of time, but not in the long run. I would rather take a step back, yes another one, and then progress alone. To sum it up, it's just wrong, wrong, wrong. The High Main, Byker. Jarrow Swinging Gibbet 4.1% Mmm!
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| P.S. For those of you who think I am being petulant or tiresome....Happy New Year.
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| Greetings my Yarkie Friends , just a line sending you all my sincere Best Wishes for 2015 ,which is officially the Year of the Centurion it wont be long before the Feb trip to the Shay , the Leigh boys are in fine fettle and raring to go , I myself am a fan of the DRs , one of the few , and I think you WILL benefit in the long run .
Anyway heres wishing you all a Happy New Year , the Carolis are spending the Year quietly , just a few Tizer and Vimtos 0.0000% in Manchester ,hope to see you soon .Charles knows .
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| ..........and the same to you and yours Charlie and all on this forum from all clubs. Yours in rugby. L.T.D.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Greetings my Yarkie Friends , just a line sending you all my sincere Best Wishes for 2015 ,which is officially the Year of the Centurion
it wont be long before the Feb trip to the Shay , the Leigh boys are in fine fettle and raring to go , I myself am a fan of the DRs , one of the few , and I think you WILL benefit in the long run .
Anyway heres wishing you all a Happy New Year , the Carolis are spending the Year quietly , just a few Tizer and Vimtos 0.0000% in Manchester ,hope to see you soon .Charles knows .
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Happy new year Charlie, let's hope you return to this forum more often than recently and don't get hounded off by the kill joys.
I too think we will benefit but then as I have been told, I am arrogant, blindly follow, head in the sand, rose coloured spectacles.
But hey, as the sign in the back window of my brand new Rolls Royce says "your following a follower of Halifax RLFC"
Arrogant, me?
"James, bring the car round NOW"
Incidentally Happy New Year to all Faxfans even the petulant and tiresome ones Mmmmmm and particularly to our many new colleagues at Hull KR.
O'h HaliRovers, HaliRovers, HaliRovers, still Halifax.
O'o FaxRovers on Fire.
Ps Huddshay, we don't agree but I respect your opinion, Happy New Year, and can I respectfully suggest a New Years Resolution?
Cut the alcohol otherwise you won't see the season out.
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| Quote ="Keiththered"When did I say that your opinion is wrong? It is a your personal view based on limited information and your own prejudices as are all our opinions. An opinion cannot be wrong. It can be agreed with or disagreed with. I happen to disagree with your opinion.'"
I think your question was valid and I am sorry you seem to have been shot down.
In my humble opinion. Of the people on this forum, most are unhappy with Dual Reg, but accept the boards decision (with reservation) a few are so unhappy that they will stay away, that's up to them.
Of all the people I have spoken to who do not contribute to this forum all couldn't give a flying """" as long as we start playing attractive Rugby and don't lose the games that we should win, like we did last year.
Personally I am looking forward to this season with renewed optimism, mind you I have looked forward to "this season" every year for? Not going to say, but it's a long time.
Happy New Year.
Mind you I do think Hull is a cold depressing place.
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| Quote ="Hudd-Shay"I think we all accept that DR isn't right, and as Karl Harrison said, if somethings not right it's wrong. So if it's wrong we shouldn't have owt to do with it. It makes no difference who the 'partnership' involves, it's wrong. It makes no difference who gains or loses out from it, it's wrong. It may help Fax out over a short period of time, but not in the long run. I would rather take a step back, yes another one, and then progress alone. To sum it up, it's just wrong, wrong, wrong. The High Main, Byker. Jarrow Swinging Gibbet 4.1% Mmm!'"
He also said we would finish in the top 2 and win the grand final of which we did neither. We listened and believed even though most of us did not think there was a chance it would happen under him. Personally for me I have read what RM has had to say on the matter so I will reserve judgement and see how it pans out while at the same time getting behind the team just like I did under KH.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"He also said we would finish in the top 2 and win the grand final of which we did neither. We listened and believed even though most of us did not think there was a chance it would happen under him. Personally for me I have read what RM has had to say on the matter so I will reserve judgement and see how it pans out while at the same time getting behind the team just like I did under KH.'"
Can't add to that Gregg, that's what supporters do.
"Not going again, don't like leaving Thrum Hall"
"Not going again, don't like summer Rugby"
"Not going again, don't like Karl Harrison"
"Not going again don't like Dual Reg"
I think a lot of these people who say "not going again until" do not understand the finances of keeping a club like HALIFAX RLFC going.
So as I have said before, those of you who will walk away, get in touch with the board and tell them the alternative.
I am sure they would appreciate your input.
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Happy new year Charlie, let's hope you return to this forum more often than recently and don't get hounded off by the kill joys.
I too think we will benefit but then as I have been told, I am arrogant, blindly follow, head in the sand, rose coloured spectacles.
But hey, as the sign in the back window of my brand new Rolls Royce says "your following a follower of Halifax RLFC"
Arrogant, me?
"James, bring the car round NOW"
Incidentally Happy New Year to all Faxfans even the petulant and tiresome ones Mmmmmm and particularly to our many new colleagues at Hull KR.
O'h HaliRovers, HaliRovers, HaliRovers, still Halifax.
O'o FaxRovers on Fire.
Ps Huddshay, we don't agree but I respect your opinion, Happy New Year, and can I respectfully suggest a New Years Resolution?
Cut the alcohol otherwise you won't see the season out.
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To be fair you may have a point there HJ. Trouble is, if we use DR players I will be having a couple of extra drinks when I should be at the game! DR=Rubbish. Crown Posada, National Inventory Pub, Newcastle upon Tyne. Allandale Golden Plover 4.0% Mmm!
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| Quote ="halifaxjohn"Happy new year Charlie, let's hope you return to this forum more often than recently and don't get hounded off by the kill joys.
I too think we will benefit but then as I have been told, I am arrogant, blindly follow, head in the sand, rose coloured spectacles.
But hey, as the sign in the back window of my brand new Rolls Royce says "your following a follower of Halifax RLFC"
Arrogant, me?
"James, bring the car round NOW"
Incidentally Happy New Year to all Faxfans even the petulant and tiresome ones Mmmmmm and particularly to our many new colleagues at Hull KR.
O'h HaliRovers, HaliRovers, HaliRovers, still Halifax.
O'o FaxRovers on Fire.
Ps Huddshay, we don't agree but I respect your opinion, Happy New Year, and can I respectfully suggest a New Years Resolution?
Cut the alcohol otherwise you won't see the season out.
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I will be visiting your Forum more often in 2015 ,hopefully to add my opinions , im not one to Gloat or take the urine ,again I admit I think the DR situation when used right is a good thing , I think in RM you have a good Coach , similar to PR at Leigh , he wont be railroaded into picking players he doesn't want .I always said when a player puts on a Leigh shirt , hes a Leigh player no matter what , in the past we have used many DRs at Leigh , and I can think of only 2 who have not performed , in Tom Spencer we received a very good player , im sure Fax will in the long term benefit .
I have met and got to know a few Fax fans over the last couple of years and I know how Proud you are of the Club and Team , this coming season will be very hard to keep up with the pacesetters , and you need a big a squad as possible , in using DRs RM will do his best to give you a team on the pitch to be proud of , after all his job is on the line ,have faith follow your lads in Blue and White , make Halifaxjohn Mayor of Halifax .All the best for 2015 .
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| Ignore Chazzas ramblings, he is in a minority of one.
May I wish all Fax fans a happy and healthy 2015, keep supporting your club.
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| As regular readers will know I am famed for my many great ideas : and also that my main desire in life is to see all my fellow Faxfans happy.
Well here we are, a solution.
All you DR haters who are going to stay away, come to the match and simply deduct any points scored by a Hull KR player at the end of the game. That way if it means we have lost in your eyes you will all be as happy as pigs in Sheite.
Such a simple but absolutely brilliant idea.
[size=150 =#0000FF HAPPY BLUE YEAR TO ALL RFL SUPPORTERS.[/size
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| Charlie is currently watching the Alamo , and it reminded me a bit of the DR system , it was the Texans fight , but many other brave men gave their lives including Davy Crockett who was from Tennessee , im sure the HKR boys will give their all for the Fax cause .
There was a Caroli at the Alamo , also a Caroli at Rorkes Drift , and one at the Little Big Horn , we wernt brave , just loved Trouble .
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| DR =Rubbish, but hey 2015 comes. Happy New Year to all Fax fans and all RL fans in general, barring bulls fans, obviously! Sportsman, shudds Mallinsons Citra 4.0 % Mmm!
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