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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"As we're cutting and pasting, I thought as good a way as any to debunk your nonsense was this
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Stanley has to be the best bogus account ever.
He's strung us all along for ages with his mystical paranoia, but it isn't real. You can't sit in such a small ideological echo chamber without, at some point, realising that you're so far down the rabbit hole that the next bit of willful ignorance or carefully constructed lie is more ridiculous than the last. Normal human beings are more honest with themselves and I believe Stan in his heart knows this. He just posts his whacked-out ideas to make people like you and I smash our faces against our desks.
I applaud him for his well constructed word salads and world-class asyndesis, but that's all it is, and I think he's playing us along...
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| Back on topic. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sULjMjK5lCINukes Do Not Exist[/url
The Nuclear Hoax the above documentary explores the truth about nuclear energy and the surprisingly abundant evidence that nuclear weapons are a hoax. Many of the nuclear explosion videos we have all seen and presumed real are shown to be complete fakes using model trees, houses and cars exploding on a set.
The destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the result of one large explosion as advertised, but rather the result of a fire-bombing campaign comparable to Tokyo's fire-bombed remains. Hiroshima and Nagasaki also never experienced anything like the hundreds or thousands of years of radiation predicted by nuclear scientists, in fact, vegetation began growing within a month after the bombing, and the Japanese people began rebuilding almost immediately=#FF0000. Some nuclear physicists even claim nuclear weaponry fraudulent based solely on the technical impossibilities of fission material not to be incinerated before triggering the necessary chain reaction. Top nuclear physicist Galen Winsor explains how nuclear power plants are essentially just steam plants and nothing but the most expensive and effective way to boil water. He completely blows the lid off the idea of nuclear meltdown or nuclear waste, and even eats a good portion of live radioactive waste on camera which he claims to have been doing for years His professional opinion is that fear of nuclear radiation has been greatly exaggerated to scare people and so a few powerful organizations can maintain total control of the world's most valuable energy resource. Even the government teaching school-children to hide under their desks just to induce fear and funnel black tax money into a fake Cold War arms race as big and deceptive as the fake Space Race.
With regards to the Anti Semite Franklin Ryckyaert - [url=http://atomicinsights.com/galen-winsor-asks-who-owns-the-plutonium-how-much-is-it-worth/This Nuclear Physisist Galem Winsor[/url urines all over his chips.
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| I'm interested in how these firebombing campaigns were done with one plane in one minute, as opposed to hundreds of squadrons of bombers dropping hundreds of thousands of incendiary bombs over several days.
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| Haha.
His stuff is gold.
If there was an award for believing the most gullible guff while maintaining nearly everyone else is wrong, he'd be Premier league.
Has anyone complied a list of his absurdities yet?
I think he's collecting conspiracies.
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| I can't wait to hear his explanation of Chernobyl and how the fallout of the last 30 years has merely been 'fake'.
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| In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.
Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. As the ground level bomb explodes it grows into a big dome of expanding hot gasses. As this dome rises into the cooler upper air mass the air rushing in under the dome creates the mushroom top with curved edges representing the airflow. The stem is made up of the rising column of smoke and heat from the epicentre still fed by the hottest gasses at the point of detonation.
A high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax.
With regards to Chernobyl.
Fallacy #1: Chernobyl created the human physical anomalies phenomenon.
Truth: Anomalies existed a very long time before the fertile imaginations of the NWO decided to use them to prop their nuclear reactor hoax.
Fallacy #2: Chernobyl accident proves the existence of commercially viable nuclear energy production.
Truth: Chernobyl proves that a boiler kettle dump load under great pressure can explode, kill and injure people and be exploited as a nuclear accident.
Fallacy #3: Chernobyl produced radiation that killed people exposed to it and injured many others with cancers caused by radiation.
Truth: All insect, animal, birds residing in the so-called "hot" zones were miraculously untouched. No dead dogs, cats, squirrels, snakes, insects. None suffering mutations.
Fallacy #4: The government has no interest in faking the Chernobyl explosion to promote a nuclear reactor hoax.
Truth: Every time commercially-viable nuclear energy claims are put into question the believers chant[i Chernobyl [/ias if some magical incantation to make sceptics go away.[i A prime piece of hoax maintenance.[/i
Fallacy #5: It is a dishonour to the dead at Chernobyl to doubt the claims of commercially viable nuclear energy production.
Truth: Its really no worse than questioning the causes of any other deaths said to have been caused by an explosion anywhere else in the world. Explosion Tragedies unfortunately happen Blame the deception perception.
We can settle this no problem..ask the local nuclear power station if you can go and clean the nuclear pile or dump load. Take The Butcher with you, I'm not only bored with his stalking, attempted derailing tactics and dribbling rantings, but you can put him in the pile by proxy. Hahahahaha
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Derail.
I don't have to do anything to make you go off point. You're ideas are all over the place.
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Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.'"
This sounds plausible. Nuclear bombs did not and still don't exist. However, the US was unable to detonate the nuclear bombs they didn't have as they hadn't developed the technology to drop non-existent bombs from altitude at the time.
So, despite being in a war to the death, they got the Japanese government to allow them to transport an atomic bomb from the United States to the centre of Hiroshima, and then to synchronize the blast to make it look as if it was a bomb that had been dropped from a plane.
And all for nothing, too, as the war continued.
Comedy gold, this!
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds '"
Who mentioned mushroom clouds? WTF have they to do with it?
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY" I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. '"
No, they won't. The Hiroshima cloud reached an altitude of over 60,000 feet in around ten minutes. No conventioanl bomb would come even close. Of course, I assume the photos are all fake?
Here is one taken from Enola Gay around 30 seconds after the blast. Enola Gay is at 30,000 feet and already the cloud is plainly higher than that altitude.
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. '"
Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.
It was in fact a British scientist, Willam Penney, who was chiefly responsible for calculating the optimum detonation heights of nuclear bombs. You can read his declassified work here:
blog.nuclecrecy.com/wp-conte ... Gadget.pdf
But no doubt that's a fake too?
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Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"In the book Vatican Assassins by Eric Jon Phelps (a non-fiction book about The history of the Jesuits) it is suggested that the bombs used on Japan in WWII were actually placed on the ground beforehand and exploded there. The US bombers having dropped dummy bombs. The reason being that the technology for dropping a-bombs from altitude wasn't developed at that time. This would mean that they'd have to have had cooperation with elements in the Japanese government to place (or construct) the real bombs on the ground ahead of time.'"
This sounds plausible. Nuclear bombs did not and still don't exist. However, the US was unable to detonate the nuclear bombs they didn't have as they hadn't developed the technology to drop non-existent bombs from altitude at the time.
So, despite being in a war to the death, they got the Japanese government to allow them to transport an atomic bomb from the United States to the centre of Hiroshima, and then to synchronize the blast to make it look as if it was a bomb that had been dropped from a plane.
And all for nothing, too, as the war continued.
Comedy gold, this!
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Before you get carried away with your ideas that only so-called nukes can create mushroom clouds '"
Who mentioned mushroom clouds? WTF have they to do with it?
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY" I must remind you that conventional bombs detonated at ground level will generate the characteristic mushroom cloud. '"
No, they won't. The Hiroshima cloud reached an altitude of over 60,000 feet in around ten minutes. No conventioanl bomb would come even close. Of course, I assume the photos are all fake?
Here is one taken from Enola Gay around 30 seconds after the blast. Enola Gay is at 30,000 feet and already the cloud is plainly higher than that altitude.
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. '"
Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.
It was in fact a British scientist, Willam Penney, who was chiefly responsible for calculating the optimum detonation heights of nuclear bombs. You can read his declassified work here:
blog.nuclecrecy.com/wp-conte ... Gadget.pdf
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"
The destruction of Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the result of one large explosion as advertised, but rather the result of a fire-bombing campaign comparable to Tokyo's fire-bombed remains.'"
The crucial difference between cities devastated by firebombing and cities like Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which were devastated by atom bombs, is that hundreds of planes in constant relays over several days are necessary for the firebombing of cities, whereas ONE PLANE CARRYING ONE BOMB was sufficient for Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Let's have a look at the facts about firebombing Tokyo and see if they hold-up against your idea that something identical happened at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. According to the Institute for historical review ([urlhttp://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html[/url, On March 9-10, 1945, a wave of 300 American bombers struck Tokyo, killing 100,000 people. 1700 tons of bombs were necessary to accomplish this devastation. On May 23, 1945, ā520 giant B-29 āSuperfortressā American bombers unleashed 4,500 tons of incendiary bombs n the heart of the already battered Japanese capital.ā Two days later, on May 25, āa second strike of 502 āSuperfortressā planes roared low over Tokyo, raining down 4,000 tons of explosives." If Hiroshima and Nagasaki had been given the identical firebombing treatment, as the conspiracy theory asserts, they too would have required hundreds of giant planes dropping thousands of tons of explosives over several days.
We know for a factāfor the Japanese victims were themselves eyewitnesses to each atomic attackāthat only ONE plane dropping ONE bomb was sufficient to accomplish the devastation at Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The bomb dropped on Nagasaki, for example, weighed 10,000 pounds. Note that: pounds, not tons.
For firebombing Tokyo, tons of bombs were necessary over several days. At Nagasaki, one much lighter bomb, weighed in pounds not tons, did the trick in nine seconds.
Nine seconds.
Like Tokyo and other Japanese cities, many German cities were subjected to firebombing. In all cases, hundreds of planes carrying thousands of tons of explosives were necessary over a period of several days in order to accomplish the devastation. Not one of these cities was reduced to ruins within a few seconds, as in the case of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Nor did any of these other firebombed cities report āthe trans-generational malignancies and immune deficiencies caused by the deadly plutonium and other radioactive isotopes produced by the bomb.ā
The facts say otherwise to your assertion without proper evidence, and that's without going into the ridiculous consequences of Nuclear weapons being all pretend that you elude to.
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Said by whom? Expert straw man builders like you? [i The Hiroshima bomb was detonated at 600 metres and the Nagasaki bomb at 500 metres, so extremely low altitude[/i. These altitudes were specifically chosen so as to
(a) flatten the maximum number of structures (b) create the maximum possible firestorm; and
(c) kill the maximum number of people for the added benefit of minimising the number of persons available to fight fires and maximise the firestorm.'"
Hahahaha Comedy gold is this. Taken from Wikipedia: You stated erroneously highlighted above low altitude, when in fact it was [url=https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=high%20altitude%20definitionHigh Altitude[/url Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and. Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). You forgot to read up on your Altitudes. hahaha. Comedy Gold.
The bombing
Hiroshima was the primary target of the first nuclear bombing mission on August 6, with Kokura and Nagasaki as alternative targets. Having been fully briefed under the terms of Operations Order No. 35, the 393d Bombardment Squadron B-29 Enola Gay, piloted by Tibbets, took off from North Field, Tinian, about six hours' flight time from Japan. The Enola Gay (named after Tibbets' mother) was accompanied by two other B-29s. The Great Artiste, commanded by Major Charles Sweeney, carried instrumentation, and a then-nameless aircraft later called Necessary Evil, commanded by Captain George Marquardt, served as the photography aircraft.[119
After leaving Tinian the aircraft made their way separately to Iwo Jima to rendezvous with Sweeney and Marquardt at [i05:55 at 9,200 feet (2,800 m[/i),[121 and set course for Japan. The aircraft arrived over the target in clear visibility at [i31,060 feet (9,470 m)[/i.[122 Parsons, who was in command of the mission, armed the bomb during the flight to minimize the risks during takeoff. He had witnessed four B-29s crash and burn at takeoff, and feared that a nuclear explosion would occur if a B-29 crashed with an armed Little Boy on board.[123 His assistant, Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson, removed the safety devices 30 minutes before reaching the target area.[124
Hahahaha. High Altitude as i claimed earlier [i high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax[/i Comedy Gold
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| Can I ask a genuine question, Stanley?
If nuclear weapons are fake, NASA is fake, We're being tricked into thinking the earth is flat, that evolution is a hoax, that there's secret societies controlling the world for their own benefit, and probably lots of other ideas that you haven't made public. Why? and what links all these ideas together into a coherent whole? and what sources do you rely on for these claims and how do you verify their accuracy?
I'm genuinely interested.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Hahahaha Comedy gold is this. Taken from Wikipedia: You stated erroneously highlighted above low altitude, when in fact it was [url=https://www.google.co.uk/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=high%20altitude%20definitionHigh Altitude[/url Altitude is defined on the following scale: High altitude: 8,000 - 12,000 feet (2,438 - 3,658 meters); Very high altitude: 12,000 - 18,000 feet (3,658 - 5,487 meters); and. Extremely high altitude: 18,000+ feet (5,500+ meters). You forgot to read up on your Altitudes. hahaha. Comedy Gold.
The bombing
Hiroshima was the primary target of the first nuclear bombing mission on August 6, with Kokura and Nagasaki as alternative targets. Having been fully briefed under the terms of Operations Order No. 35, the 393d Bombardment Squadron B-29 Enola Gay, piloted by Tibbets, took off from North Field, Tinian, about six hours' flight time from Japan. The Enola Gay (named after Tibbets' mother) was accompanied by two other B-29s. The Great Artiste, commanded by Major Charles Sweeney, carried instrumentation, and a then-nameless aircraft later called Necessary Evil, commanded by Captain George Marquardt, served as the photography aircraft.[119
After leaving Tinian the aircraft made their way separately to Iwo Jima to rendezvous with Sweeney and Marquardt at [i05:55 at 9,200 feet (2,800 m[/i),[121 and set course for Japan. The aircraft arrived over the target in clear visibility at [i31,060 feet (9,470 m)[/i.[122 Parsons, who was in command of the mission, armed the bomb during the flight to minimize the risks during takeoff. He had witnessed four B-29s crash and burn at takeoff, and feared that a nuclear explosion would occur if a B-29 crashed with an armed Little Boy on board.[123 His assistant, Second Lieutenant Morris R. Jeppson, removed the safety devices 30 minutes before reaching the target area.[124
Hahahaha. High Altitude as i claimed earlier[i high altitude blast negates these conditions by heating the air mass around it, above and below, uniformly. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were said to have been bombed with detonations at high altitude. The presence of a mushroom cloud for those exposes the hoax[/i Comedy Gold
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OMFG
Stanley, you are drunk. When you sober up, please note, they DON'T EXPLODE THE BOMB INSIDE THE FUC =#FFFFFF[size=5.[/sizeKING PLANE. (Can you think of any good reason why they don't do that?)
The PLANE is at a fairly high altitude. The question was about the altitude at which the bomb explodes.
Btw, why would Parsons fear anything, if there was as you claim actually no nuke on board, and indeed nukes didn't exist?
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| Sorry Butcher i'll answer your question in due course i got sidetracked again by an irate erroneous inaccurate copy and paste frenzy.
All footage that had to do with a mushroom cloud was faked. Mushroom clouds do not grow from high altitude blasts. A mushroom cloud must be seeded from ground level to express it's characteristic shape.
The post bombing photos of Hiroshima and Nagasaki appear to be correct. These pictures bare the signature of an M-69 fire bombing attack exactly like the attack on Tokyo 6 months earlier.
Also note that Japan became the target of the highest degree of censorship following those historical bombings. No information left Japan in the media or otherwise without US approval. The hoaxster's paradise in fact.
Speaking of radiation the experts said nothing would grow in Hiroshima for 70 years following the bombing yet Oleanders were growing everywhere just one week after. The hoaxsters called that a miracle.
Seismological data or seismic records of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and Novaya Zemlya are AWOL, missing. Especially the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba should have bent seismometer needles all the way around the world yet not one is there to be examined. Hiroshima was estimated to be the Richter equivalent of 6.4 which means the Soviets had the means to confirm the false claims of the American hoaxsters. Of course the Soviet leadership had similar hoax plans so they clammed up instead and played their cold war hoax.
I don't mind challenges to my information I welcome them. Haven't found one yet that has made me change my mind but I still welcome the questions being challenged with rationality.
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| Whilst I await your reply to my last correction of your bullcrap, your basic premise is just wrong. The bombs were exploded at 500 metres and 600 metres. Not at "high altitude". Which bit of that are you having trouble with? It's not much higher than the Empire State building. Why would you persist with your straw man about them being detonated at "high altitude"? Do you think nobody sees through it?
Quote Especially the 50 megaton Tsar Bomba should have bent seismometer needles all the way around the world yet not one is there to be examined.'"
Have you checked with all seismic ground stations, then? Can you post their replies? Oh, you forgot to mention that this bomb was an airburst, approx 4000 metres. Or that Quote it produced pressure oscillations in the atmosphere that were recorded on barograms around the world in much the same manner as the pressure oscillations that followed the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883, when as many as seven passages of the wave-front between Krakatoa and its antipode were observed.
Symons, G. J. , The Eruption of Krakatoa and Subsequent Phenomena (Trubner and Co., London, 188icon_cool.gif.
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Quote Hiroshima was estimated to be the Richter equivalent of 6.4 which means the Soviets had the means to confirm the false claims of the American hoaxsters'"
It wasn't, in this context, but nevertheless the Soviets, if they did have the means, notably did not denounce the claims as fake. Which to most people supports the logical conclusion that that the bomb was real. But to you, it's conspiracy on conspiracy, and so if the Soviets fail to "confirm the false claims" that doesn't mean the Americans HAD exploded a bomb ... it means ... well, it must mean that ... the Russians were in on the fakery!
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| Quote ="Ferocious Aardvark"Have you checked with all seismic ground stations, then? Can you post their replies?T:'"
Exactly as i explained there's no Seismic Data to research. Try digging yourself for the elusive Math. Or come up with some of your Mumbo Jumbo copy and paste frenzied outbursts.
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| My view of this Nuclear fraud, Is so called nuclear power generating plants are dump loads, big kettles that boil off the excess energy produced by the big utilities. They don't generate any energy they dispose of it so the big utilities can justify high domestic energy rates. By hiding the surplus this way they are creating the illusion of an energy shortage and they can keep your electricity bills as high as possible. Plus they make billions selling these huge kettles as so called nuclear power generators. That my gist.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"My view of this Nuclear fraud, Is so called nuclear power generating plants are dump loads, big kettles that boil off the excess energy produced by the big utilities. They don't generate any energy they dispose of it so the big utilities can justify high domestic energy rates. By hiding the surplus this way they are creating the illusion of an energy shortage and they can keep your electricity bills as high as possible. Plus they make billions selling these huge kettles as so called nuclear power generators. That my gist.'"
Ahhh. So Sizewell B is a kettle! You really are comedy gold, Stan.
But maybe you could clarify - what, exactly, do the Nuclear Decommissioning Authority, and the Office for Nuclear Regulation, do all day then, and why has nobody rumbled that there is nothing to decommission or dispose of or store? Except maybe kettle elements?
And by what mechanism do these here "kettles" produce tons of radioactive waste that needs to be stored/disposed of?
Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Exactly as i explained there's no Seismic Data to research. Try digging yourself for the elusive Math. Or come up with some of your Mumbo Jumbo copy and paste frenzied outbursts.
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Leaving aside the breathtaking irony of the Maharajah of Mumbo Jumbo and King of Cut'n'Paste claiming this, I see that - as usual - you do not give any answer, at all, to the simple and few main points I raised about your earlier nonsense.
That's you - The Man With No Answers. You're a busted flush.
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| Stanley you're onto something here, my son works at Springfield not the Homer Simpson plant, ignore the nursery wiffle waffle.This deceptive nuclear industry, be it weapons or under the guile of commercially viable nuclear reactors is the paradise for the elite. The whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the WNA and risk prison for attempted nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters.
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| Quote ="whothefeckisalice"Stanley you're onto something here, my son works at Springfield not the Homer Simpson plant, ignore the nursery wiffle waffle.This deceptive nuclear industry, be it weapons or under the guile of commercially viable nuclear reactors is the paradise for the elite. The whole ripoff scheme is shrouded in national security protocols and security bonding which means you can't discuss your work outside the plant if you don't want to incur the wrath of the WNA and risk prison for attempted nuclear terrorism. The whole scam is compartmentalized so Sam doesn't know what George is up to. Perfect cover for the atom bomb hoax clusters.'"
It's also the best way to keep things secure, both from an external and internal view. The 'compartmental' nature of the industry helps not only security but safety to workers, other on-site workers, and the general public from contamination issues. I'd agree that it's a massive financial sinkhole, especially around decommissioning areas, but that's to do with managers, out-sourcing and work practice rather than the system. I've worked in the industry for five years (without going into details I'm sure Stanley can appreciate the reasons I wont go into any details after a previous conversation) and it is sensitive, especially in the current climate.
I can reassure you that there isn't anything going on in these places other than what they were designed to do. Or in the case of decommissioning, what they once did.
Sorry to be the bearer of boring news...
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| Quote ="TheButcher"It's also the best way to keep things secure, both from an external and internal view. The 'compartmental' nature of the industry helps not only security but safety to workers, other on-site workers, and the general public from contamination issues. I'd agree that it's a massive financial sinkhole, especially around decommissioning areas, but that's to do with managers, out-sourcing and work practice rather than the system. I've worked in the industry for five years (without going into details I'm sure Stanley can appreciate the reasons I wont go into any details after a previous conversation) and it is sensitive, especially in the current climate.
I can reassure you that there isn't anything going on in these places other than what they were designed to do. Or in the case of decommissioning, what they once did.
Sorry to be the bearer of boring news...'"
So you have conflicts of interest then ? The sensitivity is borderline insane if you ask me, no wonder whispers grow loud.
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| Quote ="whothefeckisalice"So you have conflicts of interest then ? The sensitivity is borderline insane if you ask me, no wonder whispers grow loud.'"
Conflicts of interest regarding what?
People always whisper about things they don't, can't, or wont have access to. Whispers are always way over the top because, well, people don't tend to gossip about the mundane when it comes to these things. It has to be secure and sensitive by its very nature. If it wasn't we'd have all kinds of problems.
I suggest reigning-in your imagination a little. It's okay to speculate, but in my experience when you get a lot of speculation, it's not long before wild ideas become cemented as fact because they are repeated enough times rather than any grain of truth comes forward.
Often, the truth is a let down. A bit boring. Almost always normal.
I'm just offering an opinion based on my experiences in a job where I was not constrained or compartmentalized because of the nature of what I did.
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| Quote ="TheButcher"Conflicts of interest regarding what?
People always whisper about things they don't, can't, or wont have access to. Whispers are always way over the top because, well, people don't tend to gossip about the mundane when it comes to these things. It has to be secure and sensitive by its very nature. If it wasn't we'd have all kinds of problems.
I suggest reigning-in your imagination a little. It's okay to speculate, but in my experience when you get a lot of speculation, it's not long before wild ideas become cemented as fact because they are repeated enough times rather than any grain of truth comes forward.
Often, the truth is a let down. A bit boring. Almost always normal.
I'm just offering an opinion based on my experiences in a job where I was not constrained or compartmentalized because of the nature of what I did.'"
Conflicts of interest because of you're involvement within the industry. How high did you scale.
I understand what you're implying based on your experience with respect to health and safety etc, but I'm also in the know that censorship derives your opinion. I'd love to spill the beans on certain substantive issues that bare some weight but I'd be a clown to broadcast it on here. Stanley contributed the nucleus that hallmarks the nature of this beast. Censorship speaks the loudest here.
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| Quote ="whothefeckisalice"Conflicts of interest because of you're involvement within the industry. How high did you scale.
I understand what you're implying based on your experience with respect to health and safety etc, but I'm also in the know that censorship derives your opinion. I'd love to spill the beans on certain substantive issues that bare some weight but I'd be a clown to broadcast it on here. Stanley contributed the nucleus that hallmarks the nature of this beast. Censorship speaks the loudest here.'"
Not at all. There's no conflict of interest because these places do what they were built for. The self-imposed censorship I mentioned is my preference based on the job I did, which is based around the security of these sites. Not only would I be foolish giving details on a public forum, I'd be in some trouble. That's the nature of the work I did, not due to some kind of Draconian censorship imposed by some strange controlloing power. I chipped-in on the conversation based on a couple of lines that said everything was secret for nefarious reasons, which is not true, and some other lines saying that Nuclear reactors are just some kind of steam factories set-up for some reason to fool us all. Also not true.
You can believe whatever you want if it keeps you amused. It's not like anything I say will change your opinion.
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| Quote ="FLAT STANLEY"Butcher...
I totally understand and respect your background and situation with regards to this subject and i also respect your opinion especially after the conversation we privately had previously, however i'm of the opinion as to what i've read and watched on this matter, a simple watch of Galen Winsor is fascinating to whatever side of the fence you sit on. After this post i'm ceasing posting on this subject as i think my message has been said loud and clear Cheers. [url=https://youtu.be/ejCQrOTE-XAGalen Winsor[/url.'"
Unfortunately, Galen Winsor and this video have been given a thorough treatment by someone who loves their facts. I'm not sure anyone will have the stamina to go through the whole blog as it's very long but also very comprehensive. I, likewise, will retire from the thread as I've said all I want to on the subject and don't want to be going tit-for-tat.
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Cheers.
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