Anders Behring Breivik who massacred 77 people last year in Norway, majority of which were kids has compiled a 27 page document complaining of conditions in his prison cell. [uHis complaints are:[/u His cell is poorly decorated and he has no view. The handcuffs he wears when being moved around the prison "are too sharp" and "cut in his wrist". The cell is too cold, forcing him to wear three layers of clothes. His coffee is served cold. He does not have enough butter for his bread. He is not allowed moisturiser. He has to rush his morning shave and brushing of teeth. Light and television switches are outside the cell, so he has to ask for help to change channel or sleep. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 So, does he have a point?

Anders Behring Breivik who massacred 77 people last year in Norway, majority of which were kids has compiled a 27 page document complaining of conditions in his prison cell. [uHis complaints are:[/u His cell is poorly decorated and he has no view. The handcuffs he wears when being moved around the prison "are too sharp" and "cut in his wrist". The cell is too cold, forcing him to wear three layers of clothes. His coffee is served cold. He does not have enough butter for his bread. He is not allowed moisturiser. He has to rush his morning shave and brushing of teeth. Light and television switches are outside the cell, so he has to ask for help to change channel or sleep. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 So, does he have a point?

I thought this was utterly surreal, TBH.

Quote ="MattyB"Anders Behring Breivik who massacred 77 people last year in Norway, majority of which were kids has compiled a 27 page document complaining of conditions in his prison cell. [uHis complaints are:[/u His cell is poorly decorated and he has no view. The handcuffs he wears when being moved around the prison "are too sharp" and "cut in his wrist". The cell is too cold, forcing him to wear three layers of clothes. His coffee is served cold. He does not have enough butter for his bread. He is not allowed moisturiser. He has to rush his morning shave and brushing of teeth. Light and television switches are outside the cell, so he has to ask for help to change channel or sleep. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 So, does he have a point?'" NO..........What did he expect..5 star treatment for the massacre.

Quote ="MattyB"Anders Behring Breivik who massacred 77 people last year in Norway, majority of which were kids has compiled a 27 page document complaining of conditions in his prison cell. [uHis complaints are:[/u His cell is poorly decorated and he has no view. The handcuffs he wears when being moved around the prison "are too sharp" and "cut in his wrist". The cell is too cold, forcing him to wear three layers of clothes. His coffee is served cold. He does not have enough butter for his bread. He is not allowed moisturiser. He has to rush his morning shave and brushing of teeth. Light and television switches are outside the cell, so he has to ask for help to change channel or sleep. www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-20270325 So, does he have a point?'" NO..........What did he expect..5 star treatment for the massacre.

I can't even understand why it's being reported. It's just another (seemingly successful) attempt to attention grab.

Very good point. Hadn't thought of it that way.

It's a tough balance. If prisoners are to be reintegrated into society, they need to be treated well enough to enable that.

Treating people really harshly and giving them no comforts would likely just give them a mental illness before they were released and leave them bitter and resentful.

If, as in this case, the crime is seen as being so severe that a lifetime in prison is the only possible outcome morally, it really does provide a reason for the death penalty. After all, why spend loads of money on keeping a person imprisoned if you are going to treat them poorly?

Me personally, always disagreed with the death penalty no matter how guilty or good the evidence.
But for the real nasty pieces of work.

A cell with a mat, a pillow, a blanket and a bog, no windows.
1 hour exercise a day, water to drink only
Food being as cheap as possible, Porridge for breakfast (water not milk)
some cheap vegetables and pulses for lunch and dinner, served in your room.

No tv, no nothing, if they go crazy then that's part of the punishment and the reason i'm against the death penalty, i want them to suffer, i want them to get bored of the food and their life until they crack.

The [icommander[/i needs to man up.
Thought the fanny was fighting a war?

Indeed. Shouldn't be given the publicity he clearly craves IMHO.

Absolutely

Sounds more to me like the Norwegians are publicising this to make it sound like they are being hard on him and stop criticism that they should have been tougher.

Some really quite repulsive views aired on this thread.

Whilst I agree that Breivik's list is taking the mickey (and rather bizarre), the clamour for his indefinite suffering makes me feel physically sick.

The problem is that the punishment that is imprisonment is misunderstood by many. Imprisonment is the denial of certain liberties, most obviously freedom of movement. Imprisonment is not about torture, harassment, enforced mental breakdowns or anything else the vigilante mob are screaming for.

Breivik's punishment is being served on him. Indefinite detention in a Norwegian jail is, in my view, an adequate and proportionate punishment. Let's not lose the moral high-ground by wishing on him what he inflicted on his victims. To do that makes us just as bad as him.

Go on then, highlight us them, or are you just trolling again?

So the [irepulsive view(s)[/i you speak of are one single poster saying that he wants the convicted murderer to 'suffer' for the massacring of seventy odds kids whose parents are going to 'suffer' for the rest of their lives?

He wants incarcerating for the rest of his days, being the repulsive individual he is, until expiry, whereupon he can float up to the fluffy clouds to meet your maker.

or, they're publishing it because he's having a whinge. they're being as 'hard' as they can be within the laws of the country. clearly the world wouldn't implode if he fell down a huge set of stairs, but that's not how norwegians work and that's ok with me.

Yes, that is a truly repulsive and morally wrong position to take.



I think that is an appropriate and proportionate punishment. Restrict his ability to commit such an atrocity again, but don't make him suffer for the sake of it. I get the feeling a lot of people would enjoy seeing him suffer. Well I wouldn't, and anyone who would needs to seriously re-examine their own morality.

OK. You'll just have to accept that many people (sadly, in my opinion) believe in the biblical, eye for an eye, nature of justice.

A christian terrorist coward of an individual who will spend the rest of his days behind lock and key, thankfully.

It may be biblical, but it is not in keeping with God's most recent revelation. See Matthew 5:38-42. It's good to see that you share my distaste for vengeance, though.



I doubt he really is a Christian. Though it is idle to speculate, it is prudent to consider Matthew 7:15-20.

That is not to say he is beyond redemption, though.

I'll pass on [iMatthew,[/i but thanks anyway.



Maybe Breivik needs another Sister Helen Prejean?

I completely agree. I can't wait 'til he dies though, then God can begin the real infinite punishment, torture and suffering, none of this poor wanna be god attempt

People who commit certain atrocities must face the consequences of their actions, and that includes losing certain human rights.

Keep him in humane conditions by all means but don't go pandering to petty demands or complaints. That list of complaints is pathetic and should be treated as such.

"I want my coffee hotter"
"You murdered 77 people"
Perspective?

Deny him of all publicity and let him slowly rot.

This is a guy who made a rational choice to murder 77 innocent people. Why the Norwegians didn't make a rational choice to shoot him in the back of head and stop wasting their taxpayers money on maintaining his existence is still beyond me.