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| Same old tories, scummy bastads
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17501618Conservative co-treasurer offering dinner at No 10 in exchange for party donations[/url
Cash for questions anyone?
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| What's the betting Dave didn't know and the yobbish salesman gets sacrificied?
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| Quote ="Dally"What's the betting Dave didn't know and the yobbish salesman gets sacrificied?'"
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| [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/top-tory-resigns-over-250000-for-access-to-cameron-boast-7584635.htmlResigned[/url
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| Don't see the fuss at all. Cameron has to eat, so what does it matter if some cretin with more money than sense is across the table? At £250K it must be the most expensive meal on the planet though. Tell him he can come to our gaff for a monkey.
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| they need t immediatley publish a list of who has attended these dinners since the condems came to power. Pound to a penny its been stuffed with private healthcare execs conveniently seated next to Landsley with right wing christian nutjobs next to gove to discuss their'free' schools scam
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| Quote ="cod'ead"[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/top-tory-resigns-over-250000-for-access-to-cameron-boast-7584635.htmlResigned[/url'"
What a surprise! The unusual speed of resignation by modern day standards suggests Cameron has to try to knock it on the head asap - show he won't tolerate it, etc - maybe because they're "all in it together."
Let's hope the press don't let this drop and hound the PM into resignation, what with his borrowed police horse and all. Can't see out gutless press going for him though.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"they need t immediatley publish a list of who has attended these dinners since the condems came to power. Pound to a penny its been stuffed with private healthcare execs conveniently seated next to Landsley with right wing christian nutjobs next to gove to discuss their'free' schools scam'"
And more likely bankers.
You raise a good point. It must be done and done immediately.
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| If you pay £250k for a dinner I think you're entitled to expect something more than good food and entertaining by a celebrity, the fee will cover hard Prime Ministerial commitment to a policy that you are lobbying for.
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| Another high-profile political scandal [iNOT[/i broken by the BBC first.
Curious, given that the BBC has more money, more resources (including mind-boggling technological facilities), more reporters, more researchers, more experts of all descriptions and more time on its hands than ANY newspaper - and perhaps ALL put together.
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Another high-profile political scandal [iNOT[/i broken by the BBC first.
Curious, given that the BBC has more money, more resources (including mind-boggling technological facilities), more reporters, more researchers, more experts of all descriptions and more time on its hands than ANY newspaper - and perhaps ALL put together.'"
That's because the BBC has been well and truly cowed by the threat to the license fee and the charter. Their political editors and journalists have hearts the size of mouses at the moment. Extremely disappointing, to put it mildly.
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| Is this Murdoch reminding politicians that they do his bidding or else?
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| Quote ="Mugwump"Another high-profile political scandal [iNOT[/i broken by the BBC first.
Curious, given that the BBC has more money, more resources (including mind-boggling technological facilities), more reporters, more researchers, more experts of all descriptions and more time on its hands than ANY newspaper - and perhaps ALL put together.'"
I wouldn't have thought it was that curious, in a society where there is an independent press financed by private proprietors and a government subsidised press financed by compulsory licence paying, it's more logical that political scandals will be uncovered by the independent press.
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| Plus the bcb has a Tory 'grandee' at the helm. The bcb is now part the of condem propaganda machine. The way the bcb has been manipulated by the cons is shameful. Stuff like saints and scroungers perfectly fit the demonisation of the unemployed and disabled by the current govt
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"I wouldn't have thought it was that curious, in a society where there is an independent press financed by private proprietors and a government subsidised press financed by compulsory licence paying, it's more logical that political scandals will be uncovered by the independent press.'"
Which British newspapers operate an "independent press"?
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| Cruddas must be thinking "Why me?"
As Peter Oborne's "The Rise of the Political Class" explains - in painstaking detail - this kind of thing is now everyday behaviour. Politics is big business with ministerial access charged at premium rates.
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| Quote ="rhino phil"Plus the bcb has a Tory 'grandee' at the helm. The bcb is now part the of condem propaganda machine. The way the bcb has been manipulated by the cons is shameful. Stuff like saints and scroungers perfectly fit the demonisation of the unemployed and disabled by the current govt'"
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| There is also the free way to have access to a minister - tell your local MP to have a word with them, if its an important matter then they will and are probably obliged to - it worked for me and that was while he was in opposition, in fact he was much keener to be given ammunition [iwhen[/i he was in opposition.
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| ONE "Tory" is caught doing this and suddently ALL "Tories" are scumbags.
Would this have even made it on here if it was a Labour MP doing the same thing, and if so, would ALL Labour MPs be subsequently branded dodgy?
The bias on here absolutely astounds me at times.
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| Quote ="ROBINSON"ONE "Tory" is caught doing this and suddently ALL "Tories" are scumbags.
Would this have even made it on here if it was a Labour MP doing the same thing, and if so, would ALL Labour MPs be subsequently branded dodgy?
The bias on here absolutely astounds me at times.'"
Ey up, the tories favourite little provincial apologist pops up.
If this was one 'rogue' tory, then whoever appointed him to the position of joint treasurer needs sacking. To give him such a high-profile job without clearly explaining the requirements is unforgiveable. However, I don't believe that's what happened, nor do I believe Cruddas's explanation that his "bluster" went too far. That wasn't bluster, that was clear instruction on the features and benefits, at each level of becoming a donor. A man who has self-made a fortune amnounting to just short of £1bn, doesn't have to bluster.
He got caught, the tory machine got caught and Camerons has been caught in the headlights now.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Ey up, the tories favourite little provincial apologist pops up.
If this was one 'rogue' tory, then whoever appointed him to the position of joint treasurer needs sacking. To give him such a high-profile job without clearly explaining the requirements is unforgiveable. However, I don't believe that's what happened, nor do I believe Cruddas's explanation that his "bluster" went too far. That wasn't bluster, that was clear instruction on the features and benefits, at each level of becoming a donor. A man who has self-made a fortune amnounting to just short of £1bn, doesn't have to bluster.
He got caught, the tory machine got caught and Camerons has been caught in the headlights now.'"
I didn't realise the person who appoints such people needs to have a crystal ball. You know as well as I do that someone can have a squeaky clean (though I'm not suggesting Cruddas is squeaky clean of course) can let you down in the future. I've employed enough people in the past to know that, and if you're to be believed, so have you.
But hey - lets not let that get in the way of a good anti-tory dig, eh?
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But hey - lets not let that get in the way of a good anti-tory dig, eh?'"
Let's not.
Every and any time that they fook up, I take great pleasure in pointing it out and won't stop doing so more people realise that they've never changed. They may have put on a new party frock but underneath all the petticoats and frills, they're still the same. Still looking at every opportunity to make a buck for themselves and their mates, usually on the backs of the poorest and most vulnerable.
Remember what Cameron's job was before entering mainstream politics: he was a spin doctor and all he is doing now is yet more spinning. He must be reeling like a drunk at the end of every day.
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| [url=http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/cameron-inundated-with-offers-for-ten-second-meetings-201203265057/£70 per second[/url - the queues will be stretching to the London Eye
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| Quote ="cod'ead"C'mon then 'fess up, which bits of legislation were introduced or influenced by your MP's intervention on your behalf?'"
I'm still working on him.
Seriously though I'm engaged in a complaint against the HMRC Tax Credits dept and their total lack of cross-checking claims even when requested to do so, and their total lack of responsibility when things go wrong.
When I've got them to a situation where they actually check with the Benefits Agency before awarding tax credits then I'll deal with the Insolvency Service who, as far as I can tell, are manned by the sort of imbeciles who used to be kept in asylums for Victorians to pay to go stare at on a weekend - but at least they do admit to their errors which is far more than can be said for the tax credits people.
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