The Tories were a lot closer forming a government than Labour who would have had to get into bed with the SNP a party who don't actually want to be part of the union - it would be funny if it weren't so tragic. Get a throne for Queen Nicola

The EU will not be laughing if we just walk away - they can't actually fund the running costs of the organisation without our brass

Yet the DUP who are a party who support Brexit are representing a part of the Uk who did not support Brexit will get a seat at he table whilst the SNP a party that opposed Brexit and represent a part of the UK that opposed Brexit and have three and half times more seats than the DUP will have no say in the Brexit negotiations.

It would be funny if it was not so tragic.

It's politics , Similarily UKIP had a sizeable % of the population vote for them in 2015 , but didn't actually win a seat

Just the way it is , the Tories got more votes than last time , but less seats

Labour should have won more seats then this would not have been an issue for you - hopefully we will get another election as this was far from ideal - May has to go and you cannot see Labour being able to offer anything more?

I think you may find this statement to be wrong.
Yes, they will have to make some changes but, life will go on without the UK being part of the EU, just as it will for The UK being on the outside.
Mind you, with a "softer" Brexit now very likely, perhaps we will still make some kind of "contribution" to remain in the single market ??

As for the "laughing", I'm pretty sure they are pi$$ing themselves at the thought of negotiating with Mrs "shall I, sharn't I" May.
I described her as a "wind bag", not long after she took the reins and she's living up to that.
She has no substance and shocking political judgement and the country was asked to trust her with all of our futures.
I dont think that Corbyn would be any good either but, that's what "we" voted for.
They ought to put Farage in charge of the negotiations

The DUP might get a seat at the table but what did being in a coalition do for the Lib Dems apart from make Nick Clegg look like Cameron's tea boy? They've never really recovered from then.

There'll be a world of difference between dealing with the lib dems and the DUP. I've not got much time for the DUP's policies, but they won't go into this with the tragi-comic naivety of Nick Clegg.

The Tories will be the screwees in this relationship.

From a short-term national interest POV, a Con-lib alliance for a moderate compromise Brexit would be a decent idea. That bridge was well and truly burned though.

If they have any sense they know she will not be the one doing the talking - Farage would be so funny

Although I dont like the bloke and dont agree with his politics, I do believe he would fight "our" corner and he certainly wouldnt take any crap.

Also, with Mrs May's "failed" election and the likelihood of losing valuable negotiating time, whilst the Tories have a leadership election AND the possibility of another general election, there wont be much time, relatively speaking, to sort out a deal.
Someone like Farage could do the job and with a "no deal" looking most likely, he would have nothing to lose.

It's all a bit of a shambles though.
Lions lead by donkeys springs to mind.

corbyn only slightly did better than ed miliband!

Corbyn was never in the game though and started from 20 points back in the polls.
I was supposed to be a walk over.

To gain a "winning draw" versus a political no hoper, is not exactly vindication is it



This time next week, Corbyn will still be leader of his party, what about Mrs May ?

Who takes over though?... Boris, Hammond, Gove, Rudd etc.. really awful alternatives.

Its really looking checkmate for the conservatives right now.

Is that a good thing for Labour - he lost by 60 seats, most leaders would have done the honourable thing? How Labour see this as some kind of victory defies belief. That is only eclipsed by Queen Nicola no wonder they want to be bedfellows.

Quote ="brearley84"corbyn only slightly did better than ed miliband! '" Not a bad result considering Miliband was favourite to win the election and Corbyn was supposedly looking at a Tory landslide. BTW look at this video which shows that Corbyn's manifesto was not just empty promises trying to win votes but stuff he has been talking about for over 30 years: https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status ... 6062211073

Quote ="brearley84"corbyn only slightly did better than ed miliband! '" Not a bad result considering Miliband was favourite to win the election and Corbyn was supposedly looking at a Tory landslide. BTW look at this video which shows that Corbyn's manifesto was not just empty promises trying to win votes but stuff he has been talking about for over 30 years: https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status ... 6062211073

Quote ="headhunter"Not a bad result considering Miliband was favourite to win the election and Corbyn was supposedly looking at a Tory landslide. BTW look at this video which shows that Corbyn's manifesto was not just empty promises trying to win votes but stuff he has been talking about for over 30 years: https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status ... 6062211073'" Talking about stuff is easy , actually implementing it is something entirely different , many of his idea's I agree with in principle , but I know they would never work in the real world , unfortunately Mr Corbyn doesn't live in the real world

Quote ="headhunter"Not a bad result considering Miliband was favourite to win the election and Corbyn was supposedly looking at a Tory landslide. BTW look at this video which shows that Corbyn's manifesto was not just empty promises trying to win votes but stuff he has been talking about for over 30 years: https://twitter.com/Channel4News/status ... 6062211073'" Talking about stuff is easy , actually implementing it is something entirely different , many of his idea's I agree with in principle , but I know they would never work in the real world , unfortunately Mr Corbyn doesn't live in the real world

And the Tories and the DUP wanting to be bedfellows is what exactly? The DUP leader like Sturgeon does not sit in the House of Commons. We were told in 2015 if we voted Labour we'd be being dictated to by the unelected (to parliament) leader of the SNP. Tories to accept the same from the leader of the DUP? Hypocrites or what?

You also ignore the context within this election was fought.

if this were an election fought in say 2003 when there was no Brexit, no SNP having wiped Labour out in Scotland the election before and no cabal of Labour MP's openly hostile to the leader for two years before the election you might have a point.

Context here is everything and to try and say "Yeah, but Labour still lost" is failing to acknowledge that.

The SNP have been told to give Indyref2 a rest. It's no longer necessary to vote SNP if you want a left of centre MP in Scotland. Sure the Tories did better than Labour but both parties won seats off the SNP. So this result gives Labour a credibility in Scotland it lost. Voters who voted Tory for unionist reasons only now know they can vote Labour instead. So do SNP voters.

It's up to Labour to show a united front now and quit the bickering that was on show before the election was called. Corbyn has suddenly become electable but more importantly credible. The Tories thought they could ignore him and his policies. How will they appeal to the young voters who voted against then because of being shafted with tuitions fees for example?

This result is great for Labour because it's blown things wide open but left the Tories having to deal with Brexit (which will annoy one section of their party immensely) and, in case you missed it, worsening economic conditions.

As I've said before, most of the policies listed in the Labour manifesto are already implemented throughout the world, so they can, and do work in the real world.

Unfortunately, it's a long way from check mate for them.
There will be a few contenders, possible comeback for Gove or Fox and if all else fails they could make the country look even more foolish and go for, the Tory clown, Boris.

You can just imaging Boris and Trump in the same room.
Trump would threaten to nuke someone and Boris would laugh and make a joke out of it.

Michael Gove back as environment secretary... He's already knackered the Education system, the environment should be a doddle, as the hard work is already done.

It was a response to the guy saying that Corbyn could just say whatever he wanted and make up a bunch of appealing policies because he knew he would never have to implement them. When actually his manifesto was stuff that he's been talking about for 30 years.

But like the other poster said, most of his policies are standard in many other countries. I saw some Swedish guy living in the UK who said he was shocked by the way Corbyn was viewed as radical here because he would just be a regular candidate in Sweden and everything he is proposing is taken for granted there.

lol you didn't think this through did you?

Statement of documented fact, but that never bothered Corbynites.

Nobody said he didn't agree with the stuff or that he hasn't been saying it for years, but he could just throw it all in in one go regardless of it not all adding up. And the 2nd point has already been answered, it's not that any of his ideas are radical or bad on their own, it's when you add them all up and try to do them at the same time along with Brexit and trying to hit the rich and businesses, the latter of which will vary in difficulty depending on which country you're in. To say "oh stuff works in other countries" makes politics sound naively easy.

Also if you want to talk about stuff he's been saying for years lets not forget the questionable/bad stuff too that his supporters try to dismiss as people just trying to slander him.

Pacifist and terrorist dont go together, please have a look in the dictionary.