It does. What gets me is how many people are just milling around, having a look, talking to the attackers. They were apparently boasting about what they'd done, whilst covered in blood and carrying knives and other weapons? Yet no one there seemed scared and were stood round talking and even approaching the body on the floor. The attackers seemed very calm and happy, yet when the Police arrived they apparently attacked them too and had to be shot.

I know shock does a lot of things, but in that instance, I'd be thinking of scarpering first before getting my phone out, discussing it with the attackers or checking out the bodies.

It does. What gets me is how many people are just milling around, having a look, talking to the attackers. They were apparently boasting about what they'd done, whilst covered in blood and carrying knives and other weapons? Yet no one there seemed scared and were stood round talking and even approaching the body on the floor. The attackers seemed very calm and happy, yet when the Police arrived they apparently attacked them too and had to be shot.

I know shock does a lot of things, but in that instance, I'd be thinking of scarpering first before getting my phone out, discussing it with the attackers or checking out the bodies.

Fully agree. The behaviour of the bystanders isn't normal. Who in their right mind would stand calmly and film a murderer who they've just witnessed hack and behead someone with machetes with the blood still dripping from his hands? You'd be scared less and terrifed of him, trembling and cowering, not standing calmly capturing the moment within arm's length of the psychopath surely? Those women protecting the victim from further attack while the police wait round the corner for twenty minutes, saying there's nothing they can do until armed back-up arrive? Wtf?

People mingling around the body that's just been separated from his head?? That they've just witnessed in the most horrific way first hand? Far from hanging around to socialise with the maniacs still present wouldn't any sane person have actually just run like hell?

Very, very strange.

Fully agree. The behaviour of the bystanders isn't normal. Who in their right mind would stand calmly and film a murderer who they've just witnessed hack and behead someone with machetes with the blood still dripping from his hands? You'd be scared less and terrifed of him, trembling and cowering, not standing calmly capturing the moment within arm's length of the psychopath surely? Those women protecting the victim from further attack while the police wait round the corner for twenty minutes, saying there's nothing they can do until armed back-up arrive? Wtf?

People mingling around the body that's just been separated from his head?? That they've just witnessed in the most horrific way first hand? Far from hanging around to socialise with the maniacs still present wouldn't any sane person have actually just run like hell?

Very, very strange.

a couple of good bits of analysis from the Beeb.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100


www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095

in my mind there is a direct link between failures in policy towards Afghanistan and Iraq which directly have led to this situation.

By going into afghanistan and not dealing with the situation there quickly it created a festering sore. The then atack on Iraq which was unneccessary meant that the west took there eye of the ball and meant that they had lost any moral or political justification for remaining in afghanistan and dragging out an unwinnable war.

If the resources and time wasted on Iraq had been spent on afghanistan then the troops would have been home five years or more ago and the level of anger that we now see would not have been there which is the link drwan out in the second interview above.

a couple of good bits of analysis from the Beeb.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100


www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095

in my mind there is a direct link between failures in policy towards Afghanistan and Iraq which directly have led to this situation.

By going into afghanistan and not dealing with the situation there quickly it created a festering sore. The then atack on Iraq which was unneccessary meant that the west took there eye of the ball and meant that they had lost any moral or political justification for remaining in afghanistan and dragging out an unwinnable war.

If the resources and time wasted on Iraq had been spent on afghanistan then the troops would have been home five years or more ago and the level of anger that we now see would not have been there which is the link drwan out in the second interview above.

The west getting embroiled in Syria also makes things worse.

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/2 ... f-jihadist

it is clear that Western policy in Syria is creating instability and leading to radicalisation of many people. Syria is only important to the west because they want to undermine Iran and for no other reason.

That is going to make the situation in the middle East far more volatile for years to come and give Israel a free hand to carry on denying the Palestinians rights with a continued level of anger and frustration in the Muslim world.

The west getting embroiled in Syria also makes things worse.

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/2 ... f-jihadist

it is clear that Western policy in Syria is creating instability and leading to radicalisation of many people. Syria is only important to the west because they want to undermine Iran and for no other reason.

That is going to make the situation in the middle East far more volatile for years to come and give Israel a free hand to carry on denying the Palestinians rights with a continued level of anger and frustration in the Muslim world.

As I said before, the filth that have all but destroyed our society are giving them victimhood status and it's all our fault! The BBC is infested by scum and should be shut down.

As I said before, the filth that have all but destroyed our society are giving them victimhood status and it's all our fault! The BBC is infested by scum and should be shut down.