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| Disgusting. Words fail me.
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| Being reported as a targeted terrorist attack on a British soldier.
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| Yep, seems like some Islamo-Fascists have beheaded a soldier on the streets of London. Pity the police didn't shoot them dead IMO.
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| news already in there with the fear mongering, calling it a terrorist attack and comparing it with scenes in the middle east.
regardless, a terrible crime, thoughts with the family of the victim.
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| How long until this justifies an outburst of Islamophobia?
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| Quote ="Ski"How long until this justifies an outburst of Islamophobia?'"
the likes of you probably consider these scumbags to have as many human rights as the law abiding citizens of the country.
oh, and i bet you're one of the pc brigade who likes to play the race card, just so you be all 'look at me, i've just called someone a racist so that makes me such a good person'.
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| Quote ="andym1988"the likes of you probably consider these scumbags to have as many human rights as the law abiding citizens of the country.
oh, and i bet you're one of the pc brigade who likes to play the race card, just so you be all 'look at me, i've just called someone a racist so that makes me such a good person'.
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of course they deserve human rights, they're human. They deserve to receive medical treatment, face a trial, and be locked up for the rest of their lives.
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| Quote ="Ski"How long until this justifies an outburst of Islamophobia?'"
Seven minutes by the look of it.
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| Quote ="the cal train"of course they deserve human rights, they're human. They deserve to receive medical treatment, face a trial, and be locked up for the rest of their lives.'"
sorry, but anyone who commits such terrible crimes, regardless of which race, ethnicity etc should waive right to anything any regular person should be entitled to.
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| Quote ="Ski"How long until this justifies an outburst of Islamophobia?'"
Deary me. Really?
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Seven minutes by the look of it.'"
Having read some Tweets on the incident, even less than that!
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| Quote ="andym1988"sorry, but anyone who commits such terrible crimes, regardless of which race, ethnicity etc should waive right to anything any regular person should be entitled to.'"
So you'd have a sliding scale of crimes that qualify as "normal" all the way down to "throw away the book" ?
The guy in Wales who admits that he "probably" kidnapped and killed the five year old girl last year but is pleading temporary insanity - where would he be on this scale, is he "normal" ?
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| If this was a terrorist attack then the terrorists have pretty much given up, haven't they?
For me it just seems like a crazy, senseless attack on the streets of London. It's scary that there are people prepared to commit such acts of violence.
But as an act of *terrorism*, killing one man, when you've got the element of surprise, A CAR, and a stash of weapons is a pretty lame act of terrorism. If Osama was in hell he'd be disappointed at just how crap the latest terrorists are.
I don't think this has a thing to do with terrorism. I think it's just media sensationalism simply because they were said to have praised Allah after the murder.
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| R.I.P. Soldier. My thoughts go to his family and friends.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"
The guy in Wales who admits that he "probably" kidnapped and killed the five year old girl last year but is pleading temporary insanity - where would he be on this scale, is he "normal" ?'"
no, he's equally as sick as the likes of these two fellow murderers and also needs fed to the rats/pigs
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| Quote ="andym1988"no, he's equally as sick as the likes of these two fellow murderers and also needs fed to the rats/pigs'"
Alive or dead first ?
Just so we know where the scale descends to and everything.
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| Quote ="Anakin Skywalker"Deary me. Really?'"
Yep. Just give the EDL's Twitter feed a look. Apparently putting "boots on the ground" tonight.
Just what we need.
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| Quote ="Lord God Jose Mourinho"But as an act of *terrorism*, killing one man, when you've got the element of surprise, A CAR, and a stash of weapons is a pretty lame act of terrorism. If Osama was in hell he'd be disappointed at just how crap the latest terrorists are.'"
What constitutes a terrorist attack then in your book? So far as I'm concerned, it is committing an act with the intent to terrorise. I'm quite sure the people witnessing this event were sufficiently terrified and in fear of being terrorised, don't you think?
Quote I don't think this has a thing to do with terrorism. I think it's just media sensationalism simply because they were said to have praised Allah after the murder.'"
Chances are then it was an act of Islamist terrorism. Islamists do tend to praise their god while committing acts of terrorism.
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| Quote ="JerryChicken"Alive or dead first ?
Just so we know where the scale descends to and everything.'"
dunno tbh, but its still more than these mindless scumbags deserve. anyway, corrie has started, and i know threads like this always turn into the international court of human rights, with all the expert psychologists and what not appearing, so i will say no more.
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| Quote ="andym1988"the likes of you probably consider these scumbags to have as many human rights as the law abiding citizens of the country...'"
If you mean the right to a fair and legal trial, then yes.
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| Quote ="El Barbudo"If you mean the right to a fair and legal trial, then yes.'"
what will that prove? will just waste time.
hacking a man to death is pretty conclusive evidence as it is...
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| Quote ="andym1988"dunno tbh, but its still more than these mindless scumbags deserve. anyway, corrie has started, and i know threads like this always turn into the international court of human rights, with all the expert psychologists and what not appearing, so i will say no more.'"
Well thats ok then, enjoy your episode of Corrie.
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| Quote ="andym1988"what will that prove? will just waste time.
hacking a man to death is pretty conclusive evidence as it is...'"
Out of interest, when would you involve the judiciary and when not?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"What constitutes a terrorist attack then in your book? So far as I'm concerned, it is committing an act with the intent to terrorise. I'm quite sure the people witnessing this event were sufficiently terrified and in fear of being terrorised, don't you think? '"
So terrorised they stood there and filmed them.
Of course people watching will be terrified. But they'd have been just as terrified as seeing an old person have a heart attack at the wheel and run someone over.
If this was a terrorist attack, then as I said it was a pathetically lame attack. If they want to take out soldiers THEY WERE NEXT TO A BARRACKS. If they'd gone in to the barracks and killed a few soldiers before being shot then that would be something the country could be worried by. Even worse, if they'd gone a few hundred feet further and gone into the school and started attacking children then that would have been a terrorist attack sending fear to every parent and virtually every person in the country.
But a terrorist attack to kill a soldier walking along a street? It's far more terrifying if they were care in the community loons or smack heads than an organised terrorist event.
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| The air ambulance - was that used for one of the "terrorists"?
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