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| while i welcome the expansion of the game in Wales, in the past week Blackpool panthers went into admistration and then got their membership cancelled by the rugby league who did nothing to help them with debts or administration. Yet the RFL are bending over backwards to help crusaders. i understand you cant speak for the rfl but cant your fans see the contradiction and double standards involved........
rugby league is a family and all clubs should be treated the same pity we cant tell that to blackpool.....
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| I thnk they were omitted because they failed to present the RFL with plans for next years involvement in the league
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| How exactly are the RFL 'bending over backwards'?
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| As someone said on another forum
There's nothing like RL Fans ability to take 2, add another imaginary 2, come up with 76 as an answer and then offer it as evidence of some RLF conspiracy.
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| Blackpool could not come up with viable financial plans for the future.
Crusaders could. Ergo sadly Blackpool got kicked out while Crusaders remain
Hopefully The pamnthers can find a new financial backer and be reinstated back to the leagues
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| I don't know how you Crusaders fans put up with these =#FF0000edit mostly from Yorkshire. They really are becoming very tedious with the 'Barrow and Batley should be in Super League' CRAP! Why should Blackpool be in exactly? In fact, don't answer!
Harlequins,Crusaders and Catalans. You're all doing a good job so please don't let the same old goats dribble affect your judgment on what the average fan thinks. Well from Warrington anyway. None of the teams who the moaners would like in your place should be allowed any where the Super League. After hundreds of years of existence there is simply no desire in there local areas for a rugby team. SIMPLE AS THAT
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| Quote ="Crufan94"Blackpool could not come up with viable financial plans for the future.
Crusaders could. Ergo sadly Blackpool got kicked out while Crusaders remain
Hopefully The pamnthers can find a new financial backer and be reinstated back to the leagues'"
I don't know what is or is not true but the version I've seen on the Internet is that the reason why Blackpool could not come up with a plan is that the RFL specified that this plan must include paying off all their creditors whilst Crusaders have been allowed to go into administration.
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| Quote ="headhunter"How exactly are the RFL 'bending over backwards'?'"
Agreeing to pay the Crusaders' wages for November. Not to forget that Crusaders are being allowed to sign players whilst Batley are not.
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| Perhaps the national league teams would also like to be offered the back door entrance keys to the super league
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| Whilst I have every sympathy for Blackpool are you seriously expecting an answer? Or shall we treat is as the thinly veiled dig at expansion as you've responded on the KR forum:
Quote ="rednwhite"I do acknowledge that and it is part of Blackpool's own doing in not putting forward plans and apologise i am not in a augmentative mood as another has posted but i do feel that if Blackpool was called Celtic or harlequins the rfl has in the past bailed out the Quins and has been well documented in doing that. but hope that rugby league will continue in the area.'"
I'm really interested to see you provide the documentation showing the RFL bailing Quins out (so would Gutterfax no doubt!!)
Or how about this on the Blackpool forum:
Quote ="rednwhite"my heart goes out to the fans of Blackpool i had a massive soft spot for the club , the town , the people, do had great results under martin crompton
i wish the town and its people well, I've got to agree that the same wont happen to crusaders and im disgusted with the rfl over this. hope somehow there will be a Blackpool team back in the league in the future good luck my thoughts and prays are with you all x
rednwhite
hull kr'"
2 out of 10 for trolling, must try harder.
Tell you what start a few posts on boards about how many teams benefit from non fed trained players but argue that it's with the RFL agreement, see where that takes you.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"Agreeing to pay the Crusaders' wages for November. Not to forget that Crusaders are being allowed to sign players whilst Batley are not.'"
The RFL aren't paying crusaders players wages you idiot, They have just given them the money the RFL owe Crusaders from TV revenue a month early etc.
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| Quote ="captain blackbeard"I don't know how you Crusaders fans put up with these 'retards' mostly from Yorkshire. They really are becoming very tedious with the 'Barrow and Batley should be in Super League' CRAP! Why should Blackpool be in exactly? In fact, don't answer!
Harlequins,Crusaders and Catalans. You're all doing a good job so please don't let the same old goats dribble affect your judgment on what the average fan thinks. Well from Warrington anyway. None of the teams who the moaners would like in your place should be allowed any where the Super League. After hundreds of years of existence there is simply no desire in there local areas for a rugby team. SIMPLE AS THAT'"
SIMPLE AS YOU SIR ARE A TWIT
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| Quote ="tb"As someone said on another forum
There's nothing like RL Fans ability to take 2, add another imaginary 2, come up with 76 as an answer and then offer it as evidence of some RLF conspiracy.'"
and tb as an above average intelligence poster you should know in your head if not your heart statisticst/numbers are a load of bull where the rfl are involved anyway
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| Quote ="Crufan94"The RFL aren't paying crusaders players wages you idiot, They have just given them the money the RFL owe Crusaders from TV revenue a month early etc.'"
Good plan can I have the money I'm owed a month early... its nearly Christmas and I do have presents to buy.
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| Quote ="Crufan94"Blackpool could not come up with viable financial plans for the future.
Crusaders could. Ergo sadly Blackpool got kicked out while Crusaders remain
Hopefully The pamnthers can find a new financial backer and be reinstated back to the leagues'"
Is this the same plan they used when they moved to Wrexham.
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| Quote ="Crufan94"The RFL aren't paying crusaders players wages you idiot, They have just given them the money the RFL owe Crusaders from TV revenue a month early etc.'"
I'm no idiot fellow, I have a degree in Economics. I understand what "book value", "net present value" and "internal rate of return" mean but I doubt you do. Advancing money ahead of when it is earned is effectively giving money away. It is generally called "a loan" for which interest payments are usually expected.
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| If it is a loan it is not 'giving money away' , anyway as far as we know the RFL is advancing money to the club from Sky as each club will get at some point. The way the situation with the Crusaders differs from Blackpool and Batley is that the two don't have the potential to pay back such sums of money through normal expected trading, I would have thought this might have some baring on the club coming to an agreement with the RFL and HMRC about transfer embargo/administration as Batley and Blackpool unfortunately cannot given their relative economic value. I may be wrong , I wait to see and hear what the RFL and the club has to say next week. The RFL need to give a definitive answer on where we all stand quickly.
The club has been crippled by the debt accrued by Samuel and the previous club in Bridgend, in Wrexham the club seems to have faired well in its first year. It shouldnt be paying for someone elses mistakes.
The players signed by the Crusaders were also signed before the club went into administration , they have not signed anyone since.
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| Quote ="cardiffcrusaderrob"If it is a loan it is not 'giving money away' '"
It is when no interest is requested.
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The players signed by the Crusaders were also signed before the club went into administration , they have not signed anyone since.'"
No, but Batley haven't entered administration at all and still got blocked.
edit: and I understand that whilst Blackpool don't have the cash; Batley do and there is no reason why they should have been blocked.
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| Quote ="Hedgehog King"It is when no interest is requested.
No, but Batley haven't entered administration at all and still got blocked.
edit: and I understand that whilst Blackpool don't have the cash; Batley do and there is no reason why they should have been blocked.'"
Is this a reference to [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=476456this[/url?
Because if it is, you should stop boasting about your economics degree and try and get some basic education in English comprehension.
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| Quote ="tb"Is this a reference to [url=http://viewtopic.php?f=2&t=476456this[/url?
Because if it is, you should stop boasting about your economics degree and try and get some basic education in English comprehension.'"
If you could point out where the Batley statement contradicts what I said that would help. Ta.
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| Off the subject confirmed weller has left the club! How many more to go! Finally with a bit of luck it might actually be a team with welsh players in it!!
I think you would get less people complaining if you actually looked like your improving the welsh game but your not! Recruiting overseas players and has been English, no encouragement for progression really is it?
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| Quote ="Ctrlfc10"Off the subject confirmed weller has left the club! How many more to go! Finally with a bit of luck it might actually be a team with welsh players in it!!
I think you would get less people complaining if you actually looked like your improving the welsh game but your not! Recruiting overseas players and has been English, no encouragement for progression really is it?'"
Is Paul Cooke a Taff?
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| Quote ="Norman Stanley Fletcher"Is Paul Cooke a Taff?'"
See "has been".
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| Quote ="Traffic"Whilst I have every sympathy for Blackpool are you seriously expecting an answer? Or shall we treat is as the thinly veiled dig at expansion as you've responded on the KR forum:
I'm really interested to see you provide the documentation showing the RFL bailing Quins out (so would Gutterfax no doubt!!)
Or how about this on the Blackpool forum:
2 out of 10 for trolling, must try harder.
Tell you what start a few posts on boards about how many teams benefit from non fed trained players but argue that it's with the RFL agreement, see where that takes you.
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how dare you attack me
I posted my genuine feelings on the blackpool board.
2. i dont troll so do you dare accuse me of doing so.
by which was asking a open question hence please explain!
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| Quote ="Traffic"Whilst I have every sympathy for Blackpool are you seriously expecting an answer? Or shall we treat is as the thinly veiled dig at expansion as you've responded on the KR forum:
I'm really interested to see you provide the documentation showing the RFL bailing Quins out (so would Gutterfax no doubt!!)
Or how about this on the Blackpool forum:
2 out of 10 for trolling, must try harder.
Tell you what start a few posts on boards about how many teams benefit from non fed trained players but argue that it's with the RFL agreement, see where that takes you.
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