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| Quote ="Traffic"
Granted the old administration made massive mistakes and quite clearly run up a large amount of debt but given my experiences this year have been better on all fronts I think we may (and I stress may) come out of this much stronger and wiser.
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It's been going on quite a while now and we still know very little about how much debt there is (Is £3 million accurate?), who ran it up (Is only £1 million of it "historic debt"icon_wink.gif or who it is owed to (Were HMRC paid or not?).
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All questions that we don't know the answers to, barring what little information there is it would only be an assumption but I think it's largely (but not wholly) Bridgend based on:
CCJ's seem to be Bridgend based
Rental agreement is based on the Brewery field
The players involved in the pensions payments appear in the main to be the 6 who were deported
Not sure on tax but if it's Wrexham what tax would be liable on a full cap for one year? (and I don't think we were up to the cap)
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| Quote ="Brasshat"
And once again you get all insulting, grow up and take a chill pill.
Cas would get a lot more than 1122 if they played on the moon,
You have a hard core of around 1200 and should have been left to develop into a club that was ready for superleague.
The mess you are in is down to the RFL pushing too hard, which will end up in the club folding, If you had been left alone , with some success in the championship, then your fan base would have grown and the club would not be in debt through chasing the RFL's dream.
Then when you were ready, get you in superleague and it would have all been so different.
Good luck sonny, and dont forget.................... chill , theyre not all out to get you
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| Quote ="Traffic"Yep that's right, the club clearly didn't perform as expected and yet something happened at the end of the season and they remained in the same League as a result of an RFL decision, sound familiar?'"
Something happened at another (expansion) club in Leighs case, so a little different to this one, and its still not definite you will make 2011 season |
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"
i dont seem to recall that many cas fans at the magic weekends.
I would love to see how many would attend if Cas played in Coventry?
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| Quote ="dids858"
You may have if you had been there.............. tut . bloody newbies
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"
Confused as i'm not a Crusaders fan.
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| Quote ="dids858"
I think the london village gave that away. doh
But as the quins are on the cadge , then same as, I suppose
The game is Knackered with all these failing expansion experiments.
God help Rugby League
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Not a quins fan either. There are a few Northern folk down here.
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| Quote ="dids858"Not a quins fan either. There are a few Northern folk down here.'"
On missionary work i see, well done, but theyre a lost cause in the smoke
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"On missionary work i see, well done, but theyre a lost cause in the smoke
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Thanks for your concern for us in the smoke  |
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| Quote ="tb"Then you're clearly a) stupid or b) being tendentious.
Every Super League club in SL for the period 2009-11 period is there for the same reason as Crusaders: they submitted a winning licence application.'"
Yes, But all of them except Crusaders and London had previously earnt the right to be there by their results on the playing field.  |
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| Quote ="rupert bear"Yes, But all of them except Crusaders and London had previously earnt the right to be there by their results on the playing field.
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Your list is incomplete. You forgot to include Castleford, they finished in relegation postion 2008. |
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| Quote ="boost"Your list is incomplete. You forgot to include Castleford, they finished in relegation postion 2008.'"
That's fine by me. I'm not that bothered either way. |
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| Quote ="boost"Your list is incomplete. You forgot to include Castleford, they finished in relegation postion 2008.'"
Hey and dont leave out huddersfield (about 4 times) and the polecats, but Superleague is bent as we all know.
So your point is ??????????
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| Quote ="rupert bear"Yes, But all of them except Crusaders and London had previously earnt the right to be there by their results on the playing field.
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| Quote ="Bradleigh"Wel.....maybe not 'over backwards'......
1) Did Celtic Crusaders WIN promotion to SUPER LEAGUE, no, you were placed there (before ex World Champions Widnes) because the club is located in Wales.
2) Celtic go bust, the RFL let's it re-locate to Wrexham( well a new club get's created really) and allowed to stay in Super League.
3) Crusaders are in the $hit now, maybe too many 'free tickets/offers' handed out, instead of paying speccies.
The club knew what 'debts they had inherited' (i assume they have a book keeper/acountant) but carried on regardless in spending money they didn't really have, but then again you are not alone in all that.
The RFL will do 'all they can' to assist you, they think it will work eventually, I guess mainly in producing quality Welsh rugby players, admittedly that will take time. If it's not sustainable, then it's only a matter of time before RL in Wales fails again, BUT Crusaders are in the best league to make a success of it.
My team Leigh Centurions will be stuck in the championship FOREVER, or maybe till 2048 when the RFL have explored every possible avenue that is nowhere near the M62
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I don't want you to fail, I just want promotion/relegation back - to me that is a proper sport.'"
yh ex world champions widnes from like 30 years ago, i no lets stick leeds, mk dons(wimbledon) coventry bradford in the premier league and tell them they haver to win the league to be a good team. and yes they did win promotiopn if you think about it an extra 2 places were available in super and salford 1st and crusaders 2nd got them end of. |
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cant call catalans a failed experiment with 2 play off apperancces one finishing third or fourth and a wemlbey appearence plus gates of at least 8000 a week |
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"Hey and dont leave out huddersfield (about 4 times) and the polecats, but Superleague is bent as we all know.
So your point is ??????????
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Wakefield have never finished in a relegation position in superleague. |
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Wakefield have never finished in a relegation position in superleague.'"
what about the old first division, they were saved there |
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"what about the old first division, they were saved there'"
When?
And what relevance does that have to modern day superleague anyway? |
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| Quote ="Theboyem"When?
And what relevance does that have to modern day superleague anyway?'"
If you were at all involved with the conversation you would see the relevance in regards to this particular chat, if you dont , then there really is no hope.
Now if you will excuse me, I was chatting with the adults
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| Quote ="ambernotyeller"If you were at all involved with the conversation you would see the relevance in regards to this particular chat, if you dont , then there really is no hope.
Now if you will excuse me, I was chatting with the adults
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Theres no relevance to the present situation, which is what matters.
Oh don't worry, I have no desire of continuing to chat with one so immature. Good day to you. |
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| Quote ="Theboyem"Theres no relevance to the present situation, which is what matters at all.
Oh don't worry, I have no desire of continuing to chat with one so immature. Good day to you.'"
Thank the lord for that
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| Quote ="rawzy!"cant call catalans a failed experiment with 2 play off apperancces one finishing third or fourth and a wemlbey appearence plus gates of at least 8000 a week'"
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