If you are owed it or can be advanced it why not?

"Waster" is more apt.A talented player who is clueless how to put it to his best use.

OK, so tell me what your rationale for and what where you expecting in terms of a response when you started the thread?

You aren't owed it until you've earned it.

Or it can be advanced.

At which point, you owe the advancee.

Kevin? Is that you?

yeah wales rl in the four nations against the 3 giants and first ever welsh team in the play-offs with welsh players no development at all wales getting in the four nations is a direct result of the crusaders and scorpions get your head out of your ass mate

Strange that they havent offered that luxury to any other club, ffs take off those blinkers and admit the truth. the crusaders are being bankrolled by the RFL because they want expansion to look like a success. We all know its doomed to failure, just some of us cant face that fact.

I admire the tenacity of the diehard supporters in wales , but there just arent enough people interested in league (yet) to make the crus a viable proposition, and that is the fault of Lewis and the rest of the clowns at HQ pushing crus in before they were properly established as a club.

Good luck for next season but dont bring that liar thomas to cas again

Will be intresting to see what punishment Crusaders will recieve for going into Admin, 6-8 point point reduction ? good job it was now and not last year or your Franchise bid would be in tatters, good luck to Crusaders for next year, but on a personal note can't ever see RFL taking off in Wales, they have tried since the 80's and still seem to attract small crowds and don't seem to settle in a ground as a Club, and history does usually have a tendence to repeat itself.....



Quote taken from Wikipedia:

Following in the footsteps of Fulham F.C. (who founded the RL team that is now Harlequins Rugby League), Cardiff City F.C. decided to enter a team for the 1981/82 season. The Blue Dragons, as they were known, shared Ninian Park with the Bluebirds until the 1983/84 season, when the club went into liquidation. They were then moved to Bridgend for the 1984/85 season, where they placed on the bottom of the table, and were expelled after the season for failing to obtain a home ground. The final professional rugby league club was South Wales RLFC, who finished 6th in the Second Division in 1996. Because of small crowds, the club withdrew from the league before the next season.

In 2006 a new professional team, Celtic Crusaders entered the Rugby League National Leagues in League Two. They achieved promotion to National League One in 2007. The Crusaders have been promoted further, being invited to compete in Super League in 2009. Crusaders were joined in the professional ranks by South Wales Scorpions in 2010.

How many clubs have asked?


I know others have asked for this before and received no reply but I'll do it again anyway.
Evidence? Or is it just all in your mind?


Who are you talking about here? Wakefield, Blackpool, Cas, Barrow, Hull KR or Widnes?


Who are you talking about here? Wakefield, Cas, Hull KR or Salford?


2001 = RFL loss of over £2m
2002 - Richard Lewis appointed
2010 - RFL has made a profit for 8 consecutive years
- largest turnover in RFL history reported
- highest payments to clubs ever reported
- average attendances rose for 8 consecutive years


Care to talk to his legal team over defamation of character? Still b1tching about the big bad nasty RFL fining your club for its undesirable homophobic elements are you?
I believe you belong in the 1960's. You'll be fine in Cas.

And there you have it, Blinkers firmly in place, who will pay at the end of next season when the crus are skint again. You cant survive on that massive 1122 crowd.

As for Thomas, in his first statement he heared nothing, as soon as his agent pointed out free publicity he had heared it all and was hurt, check it out, the truth is out there, so one statement of his was a lie, which makes him a liar .... simples

Remember the blue dragons? You lot are going the same way

How many warnings are you on now?



Ohh clever. I see what you've done there - taken Crusaders' lowest gate of the season, and treated it as an average

take the 2 on the road games out and it just shows that a professinal rugby league club in wrexham can be a huge success but its going to take time,patience and investment.

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None, but you are obviosly twitching to flex your muscles , You seem to have a personal problem with anyone that doesnt toe the RFL line. What are you afraid of ?

Massive crowd of 1122 you really do make me laugh, Lowest gate of the season which wasnt really a home game and you use it to try an make it look like our average gate, When will you pull your head out of the northern ground and realise that the majority of RL fans actually are all for expansion and that the crusaders have the potential to do great things for RL in wales

Not wanting to start/continue WWIII, but it would be interesting to see how many fans were paying fans and how many got free tickets to the games. I totally understand the importance of the freebies to a new team/venture and I expect most of the Leeds crowd would have been comps. I truer figure would be to see ticket sales not attendances to see if there was an increase in paying interest.

widnes were not allowed into super league. because they went into administration but you will get anothrr franchise licence next year.can you honestly say this is fair. the rules should apply to all

That was before the franchise licensing rules were changed and agreed upon by all SL teams and also BEFORE there was any hint of Crusaders RL financial difficulties

ok i apologise as i did not see the point you were making


However I do think the hardcore support in wrexham is around 3,000

Funny that every Christmas I can have an advance of up to half my December salary if I so wish and my employer doesn't charge me interest.

of course.

Well if you look it up the changes were agreed by all teams in SL early in the offseason when the new regulations were announced. At a time in which Crusaders Rl's finances looked stable.

no