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| Thought they did well last night. They hav'nt had a match or been together as a squad long. Time will tell. I'd like them to do well and think they will. When injuries hit will be the bubble burster.
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| Quote ="bomberwells"and resign from SL. Lets be honest here, your inclusion in SL has been an absolute farce and it only happened because the RFL were hell bent on expansionism. Teams like Widnes, Leigh and Halifax should have been given the licence for SL instead and they would have made a much better job of it than you guys. You have broken rules, not got your own ground and cant even stay in the same area, your players are average to say the least, poorly prepared and you probably wont win any games at all this season.
Very poor performance and i think most SL fans want you out.'"
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"soft lad, are you Keith Senior in disguise
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| Quote ="bomberwells"and resign from SL. Lets be honest here, your inclusion in SL has been an absolute farce and it only happened because the RFL were hell bent on expansionism. Teams like Widnes, Leigh and Halifax should have been given the licence for SL instead and they would have made a much better job of it than you guys. You have broken rules, not got your own ground and cant even stay in the same area, your players are average to say the least, poorly prepared and you probably wont win any games at all this season.
Very poor performance and i think most SL fans want you out.'"
I agree with this statement and sport should be done fairly.They should have worked the way up with promotion and relegation.It ok for teams already in superleague to say it a troll.Bet if they dropped your club out of superleague you be ed off.Promotion and relegation should happen every year as clubs got nothing to go for to be honest.If clubs like widnes,fax,barrow,leigh go under i would not support saints or wigan etc.I would go to football matches.The rfl are killing heartland clubs.We all have opinions and good on keith senior for mentioning widnes.What es me off their is no aim for championship clubs.As the game is fixed.
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| Quote ="Chorlton RL"<snip>
Before you start bad mouthing the club let's not forget that their license is not over yet. Crusaders aren't going to pack up and go away because A FEW FLATCAPPERS don't like venturing too far away from the M62. '"
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| Quote ="Grendel"Correction Macbroon, the Wrexham Crusaders' FIRST season.
The Celtic Crusaders stopped trading and were wound up. This is a new company called Wrexham Crusaders Limited (ergo a new club) playing in Superleague on the franchise place awarded to the CELTIC Crusaders.
The only thing that's the same is 10 players (out of 2icon_cool.gif, one word in the name and Mike Fakking Turner.'"
Oh dear, the bitterness just ekes out of your whinge. Pedanticism is not one of my attributes, so to everyone but you, [size=150Crusaders are playing their seond season in SL[/size
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| Quote ="Roofaldo"
Best of luck to you welsh lads.'"
Aren't all but one of them either English or Australian?
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| Quote ="Pete_Zatoppin"Aren't all but one of them either English or Australian?'"
I'm sure Lloyd White (of Newport), Elliot Kear and Lewis Mills (of Cardiff) and Gil Dudson (of Swansea) would have something to say about that.
Do your research, clown.
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"I'm sure Lloyd White (of Newport), Elliot Kear and Lewis Mills (of Cardiff) and Gil Dudson (of Swansea) would have something to say about that.
Do your research, clown.'" just out of interest mate at the moment how many in your squad are british?
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"I'm sure Lloyd White (of Newport), Elliot Kear and Lewis Mills (of Cardiff) and Gil Dudson (of Swansea) would have something to say about that.
Do your research, clown.'"
so thats 4
out of a squad of how many???
And how many played the other night??
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| Quote ="Pete_Zatoppin"so thats 4
out of a squad of how many???
And how many played the other night??
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Quote ="j.c"just out of interest mate at the moment how many in your squad are british?'"
We've got the five Welsh lads, Gaz Raynor, Tommy Lee, Jamie Thackray, Jordan James, Peter Lupton and Anthony Blackwood, so 11. Blackwood, James and Luke Dyer are all Welsh internationals too.
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| Quote ="ajhcrusader"Indeed, but you said they were 'ALL' English or Australian. I forgot Ben Flower too (also from somewhere in South Wales)
We've got the five Welsh lads, Gaz Raynor, Tommy Lee, Jamie Thackray, Jordan James, Peter Lupton and Anthony Blackwood, so 11. Blackwood, James and Luke Dyer are all Welsh internationals too.'" 11.nothing wrong with that id say at least for now
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| Quote ="macbroon"Oh dear, the bitterness just ekes out of your whinge. Pedanticism is not one of my attributes, so to everyone but you, [size=150Crusaders are playing their seond season in SL[/size
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Ooooh big text. I'm so impressed
"Everyone"? Are you the spokesperson for "everyone" then?
I think you'll find that a company in its first year of trading cannot actually be in its SECOND year of rugby, "pedanticism" or not.
So basically what you are saying is that where facts are concerned, majority rules? Ever heard of Copernicus? Don't go sailing beyond the horizon mate, you'll fall off the edge of the world.
"Bitterness" "whinge". Here's some more for you: "hysterical" "desperate"
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| I think crusaders playeed very well on friday and will trouble a lot of teams in wrexham this year. I don't see them finishing bottom. People keep going on about halifax,leigh and widnes but how do we know for sure that they would do better in SL than crusaders? None of their coaches are better or more experienced than Brian Noble thats for sure. I think the crusaders deserve to be given a chance in Wrexham,and I wish them all the best(exept when they play warrington of course!).
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| [url=http://www.slstats.org/t3/Halifax+R.L.F.C./2003/Summary.htmlProof that Halifax would do better[/url
[url=http://www.slstats.org/t14/Leigh+Centurions/2005/Summary.htmlProof that Leigh would do better[/url
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| as someone who went watching leigh home & away that season and know how bad we were 10 gates of over 4000 isnt that bad
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| Quote ="headhunter"[url=http://www.slstats.org/t3/Halifax+R.L.F.C./2003/Summary.htmlProof that Halifax would do better[/url
[url=http://www.slstats.org/t14/Leigh+Centurions/2005/Summary.htmlProof that Leigh would do better[/url'"
With respect those figures prove nothing this is 2010 not 2003. Fax and Leigh have had their chance in the past and failed,time to give someone else a try I think.
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| Can we keep our chart just as it looks now please?
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| cant speak for fax but we've had one crack at SL and yeah we failed miserably. but i dont think we had any chance at all.first of all the other teams in SL had already finalized there squads before we had even been promoted so that was a massive disadvantage it left us with those players who were injury prone or those who were simply not good enough.
secondly it was P&R no 3years grace to allow us the chance to build a team that could hold its own in SL.so when you say we've had our chances your wrong in what you say.having said all that your right it is time to give other clubs a chance the only problem is do we offer clubs the oppertunity to come into RL and work there way to the top league along with all clubs on a level playing field or do we alienate even more people from the game and just stick a pin in a map and say that'll do?
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| The crusaders worked their way up through the leagues as far as league 1 and franchise application time. Okay they did not win promotion to SL they were franchised into it but Leigh,Halifax or Widnes would have been admitted under exactly the same rules had their own individual applications been succesful. I know a lot of Leigh and Widnes fans are annoyed over the move from south to north wales but given a choice between a club moving and simply closing down then moving has to be the better option doesn't it? Personally I wish the crusaders all the best for the future. Given time I believe the club will prosper and be a force in SL. Maybe Leigh would too but you have had a chance in the past and it did not work. This is the first chance for the crusaders and they should be allowed to take it in my opinion. Good luck to them!
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| Quote ="Grendel"Ooooh big text. I'm so impressed
"Everyone"? Are you the spokesperson for "everyone" then?
I think you'll find that a company in its first year of trading cannot actually be in its SECOND year of rugby, "pedanticism" or not.
So basically what you are saying is that where facts are concerned, majority rules? Ever heard of Copernicus? Don't go sailing beyond the horizon mate, you'll fall off the edge of the world.
"Bitterness" "whinge". Here's some more for you: "hysterical" "desperate"'"
Let me add a new description to you.
[size=150PATHETIC (as well as pedantic)[/size
Get over it
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"The crusaders worked their way up through the leagues as far as league 1 and franchise application time. Okay they did not win promotion to SL they were franchised into it but Leigh,Halifax or Widnes would have been admitted under exactly the same rules had their own individual applications been succesful. I know a lot of Leigh and Widnes fans are annoyed over the move from south to north wales but given a choice between a club moving and simply closing down then moving has to be the better option doesn't it? Personally I wish the crusaders all the best for the future. Given time I believe the club will prosper and be a force in SL. Maybe Leigh would too but you have had a chance in the past and it did not work. This is the first chance for the crusaders and they should be allowed to take it in my opinion. Good luck to them!'" i have no problem with wrexham at all infact i think its a good idea.myself and other have said for a while now the best way to make RL stronger is to strengthen the base product and expand outwards which is hopefully happening now in n.wales
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| Quote ="Grendel"Grrrr
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You must keep taking the tablets and I strongly reccomend that you ask your Dostor to prescribe larger doses.
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| Quote ="macbroon"You must keep taking the tablets and I strongly reccomend that you ask your Dostor to prescribe larger doses.
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