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| Is Duport injured?
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Is Duport injured?'"
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Don't think so. I just don't think the head honcho fancies him much.
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| Yeah, we should stick with Bell instead, better value for money and one for the future.
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| Speaking of up-and-coming centres though, JP Baile is going to be a star. He was magnificent last night.
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| Quote ="John_D"Speaking of up-and-coming centres though, JP Baile is going to be a star. He was magnificent last night.'"
That was obvious a month into this season.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Yeah, we should stick with Bell instead, better value for money and one for the future.'"
At least Bell has an slight bit of talent and a bit of positional sense compared duport who can't catch a high ball, has awful footwork for a winger or centre and who wants to come and put in a massive hit on someone!
Thats not defending Bell in anyway, but to compare him and Duport is sheer stupidity!
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"At least Bell has an slight bit of talent and a bit of positional sense compared duport who can't catch a high ball, has awful footwork for a winger or centre and who wants to come and put in a massive hit on someone!
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I have always felt Re: Duport that he is a victim of his versitility, Hes not a winger, Centre and hes probably not a second row either, yet he has played all those positions for us without exelling hugely, he has struggled with his fitness too.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"
...to compare him and Duport is sheer stupidity!'"
Well, that's just me in a nutshell, innit?
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"Well, that's just me in a nutshell, innit?'"
I didn't say that did I? don't go spitting your dummy out!
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"I have always felt Re: Duport that he is a victim of his versitility, Hes not a winger, Centre and hes probably not a second row either, yet he has played all those positions for us without exelling hugely, he has struggled with his fitness too.'"
Unfortunately for Vince, I think he's had his chance to impress when Mogg started playing 6. Raguin filled in there, and although I think that cost us in the big games against pacy centres with good footwork, he did a good job. IMO the answer is not JPB or Raguin, but Duport would not let anyone down in the centres. I wouldn't mind us going into games with him and Bell as our centres. I just wish there was a, or 2, young replacement(s) to come through the ranks and replace the both of them!
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"IMO the answer is not JPB'"
Interesting, I thought I was the only one not getting a little bit carried away with JPB, dont get me wrong he's doing a good job but I feel some of the superlatives thrown his way are a bit OTT.
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"Interesting, I thought I was the only one not getting a little bit carried away with JPB, dont get me wrong he's doing a good job but I feel some of the superlatives thrown his way are a bit OTT.'"
Still plenty to work on there, obviously, but in the fullness of time, he'll be up there
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"Interesting, I thought I was the only one not getting a little bit carried away with JPB, dont get me wrong he's doing a good job but I feel some of the superlatives thrown his way are a bit OTT.'"
His (as is Raguin's) footwork is awful in defence for a centre. They both plant their feet and go for the hit, they get found out by top centres, just look what Saints did to us, they hit us out wide in the centres where we are weak defensively.
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| Quote ="John_D"Still plenty to work on there, obviously, but in the fullness of time, he'll be up there'"
I know I just feel some people get a little carried away when we find a French player capable of filling one of those problem positions for French players.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"His (as is Raguin's) footwork is awful in defence for a centre. They both plant their feet and go for the hit, they get found out by top centres, just look what Saints did to us, they hit us out wide in the centres where we are weak defensively.'"
JPB is another who likes a shot out of the line too, so who for you Cala is our centre but not quite a centre JPB, the Traffic warden or Vince?
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"JPB is another who likes a shot out of the line too, so who for you Cala is our centre but not quite a centre JPB, the Traffic warden or Vince?'"
I think Vince would benefit from having the experience of a decent winger outside him, maybe Pelo or the forgotten man, Murphy.
The fact is that if we are to press on we need a top quality centre and none of the above fit the bill, IMO, someone like Ashley Gibson would be cheap and fit the bill perfectly, he could also cover on the wing if we needed or if the worst happened even cover at Full Back if Greeny got injured.
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"I think Vince would benefit from having the experience of a decent winger outside him, maybe Pelo or the forgotten man, Murphy.
The fact is that if we are to press on we need a top quality centre and none of the above fit the bill, IMO, someone like Ashley Gibson would be cheap and fit the bill perfectly, he could also cover on the wing if we needed or if the worst happened even cover at Full Back if Greeny got injured.'"
Hmm, not sure about Gibson, but I Imagine you know a bit more on the Leeds lads. The club has never signed any English players in the past either but theres always a first time. I honestly dont know who I think the club should be looking at as I thought at the time Steve Bell would do a good job for us.
Obviously I would like the club to develop some genuine French 3/4, that is gonna take time and like you say those players might never make the required standard.
Is Murphy just out of favour or a victim of the 8 player rule, havent heard much about his frenchness recently?
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| Quote ="Cala Millor Rhino"I didn't say that did I? don't go spitting your dummy out!'"
Don't worry, dummy's about here somewhere.
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| Quote ="marvwoodburn"
Is Murphy just out of favour or a victim of the 8 player rule, havent heard much about his frenchness recently?'"
I thought he was carrying a long term injury, I'd be shocked to hear he's lower in the pecking order than Bell.
I reckon Raguin and JPB are a centre combination to try, yes they need to work on defence but play them there for a while and they will get better. I honestly have no idea where Duport should go, maybe to TO for a first choice run in his favored position. Little point him not playing.
Speaking of which, will we work things out differently next year with the Dragons players, seems we have lots of Dragons players who are not pushing into the top squad, but because they are Dragons and not UTC they are not even getting LER time.
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| Quote ="belgianxiii"
I honestly have no idea where Duport should go, maybe to TO for a first choice run in his favored position. Little point him not playing.'"
Call me ignorant but does Vincent have a favoured position?
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Speaking of which, will we work things out differently next year with the Dragons players, seems we have lots of Dragons players who are not pushing into the top squad, but because they are Dragons and not UTC they are not even getting LER time.'"
I agree, Julien Touxagas is one that springs to mind
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