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| Well here it is. There is only one league and it starts at weekend so keep us updated on scores and any other info/banter on here.
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| not to get into the winter/summer debate, however one real bug bare of mine when we were affiliated to NWC was the poor updating of their very old fashioned website.....surprise, surprise, no web updates since May, with no where on the web re fixtures, league structure etc, considering that a new season is about to start then that for me is shoddy
The RFL have really set the bench mark in amateur rugby league this season with the NWML website and the the clubs themselves now interacting through twitter.
The NWC need to get out of the dark ages and move with the times....not just with the website!
Good luck to all those in the winter league I hope its a success.
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| were any games played?
I know the Irlam and Langworthy games didnt happen.
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| Widnes Tigers 12-16 Leigh East B
Golborne Parkside 48-6 Rylands Sharks.
Think they were the only 2.
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| Quote ="mmp"were any games played?
I know the Irlam and Langworthy games didnt happen.'"
Langworthy players are still at summer clubs, spoke to one of their players on Saturday night
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| Having a summer and winter club was always doomed to failure with significant overlaps in the season. Madness.
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| Which Langworthy players are at other clubs wirejb?
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| Quote ="Ayres Rock"Which Langworthy players are at other clubs wirejb?'"
Wouldn't have known them even if I asked their names, he just said some at Little Hulton, Caddishead etc until the end of the summer season.
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| There has already been lots of 24-0 this season but do you think now that the winter season has started there will be more 24-0 as the winter players have gone back to there winter teams so maybe some summer teams may struggle for numbers? or have gone winter them self's as they don't like the summer league
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| Quote ="LHreds"There has already been lots of 24-0 this season but do you think now that the winter season has started there will be more 24-0 as the winter players have gone back to there winter teams so maybe some summer teams may struggle for numbers? or have gone winter them self's as they don't like the summer league'"
depends how loyal players are to one or other club but also...who is the 'primary club' in terms of their registration. I thought you could only play for your secondary club when your primary club didn't need you so if you've a team of secondary registartions in summer, you're a bit buggered now that winter has begun; if they are all primary registrations then you are going to be OK.
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| Thatto Heath and Eccles are supposed to be entering teams. Just what the league wants more clubs that forfeit half their games and thrash everyone the other half.
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| Quote ="bowes"Thatto Heath and Eccles are supposed to be entering teams. Just what the league wants more clubs that forfeit half their games and thrash everyone the other half.'"
From what i know, the thatto heath team will be more of a new team rather than a team made up of thier 1st and 2nd team.
its all stemed from a chairty game i was involved in a few weeks ago between the 06 leavers of two st helens schools which was held at thatto heath. i would think the main core of players would come from that rather than the current summer teams.
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| Quote ="bowes"Thatto Heath and Eccles are supposed to be entering teams. Just what the league wants more clubs that forfeit half their games and thrash everyone the other half.'"
Just like the summer switch the 'new' winter set-up will need time to develop. The summer switch has allowed lower league team(s) to develop with an influx of winter players who'd normally play at a higher level. It'll be interesting to see how things go for the remainder of their season now the winter league players have started to go back. I expect the consistency in games going ahead in the winter leagues to rise in a few weeks time.
In terms of blow out scores one week and then not turning a team out the next this is no different to the 1st few years of the summer leagues when some teams benefitted from higher league winter players playing against lower league players, those new to the game and ru converts. Funny how things have gone full circle.
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| Yeah true. The likes of Liverpool Buccaneers crumbled to dust when most clubs moved to summer. Though a genuine Liverpool City in the Emerging clubs league have arisen.
Hopefully it will settle but I think the RFL have a lot to answer for with the dual registration rule. It seems to wreck summer and winter
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| Quote ="bowes"Yeah true. The likes of Liverpool Buccaneers crumbled to dust when most clubs moved to summer. Though a genuine Liverpool City in the Emerging clubs league have arisen.
Hopefully it will settle but I think the RFL have a lot to answer for with the dual registration rule. It seems to wreck summer and winter'"
The dual registrations are an issue and the only sensible way forward is to have equal parity between both clubs and the player free to choose who he turns out for. The club are then free to choose if they want to enter into a dual registration for a player at all. Works for everyone then.
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| Quote ="Morning Glory"The dual registrations are an issue and the only sensible way forward is to have equal parity between both clubs and the player free to choose who he turns out for. The club are then free to choose if they want to enter into a dual registration for a player at all. Works for everyone then.'"
A player could owe fines and subs to a club then as it stands duel register then going from what your saying then just decide to turn out for the new club and avoid paying his commitments at his first club.
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| Quote ="wirejb"A player could owe fines and subs to a club then as it stands duel register then going from what your saying then just decide to turn out for the new club and avoid paying his commitments at his first club.'"
True, but the club then reports the owing fines to the league and that player is 'blacklisted' from playing for the other club. If the players name appears on a team sheet the 2nd club gets fined. It won't stop him playing under another name but that's been going on forever & will do, impossible to police that one. As I say ultimately the club has the choice to enter into the dual registration & the choice to let the player play for them while the money is unpaid.
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| higginshaw played irlam hornets today,proper game of rugby league mud rain plenty of points scored lots of hard tackles,you summer lot wouldn,t like it.hornets won 42 16,winter rugby not for fannys.
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| any other results?
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| Quote ="mmp"any other results?'"
Not seen too many apart from these from last weekend and the one's we have played in so far.
Albert Park 10 Widnes Tigers 0
Blackpool Scorpions 18 Leigh East 0
Widnes Moorfield 16 Rylands Sharks 4
Higginshaw 16 Irlam Hornets 42
Dalton 28 Golborne Parkside 2
We are down to play Thatto on Saturday at Home and the week after Irlam away.
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| This is the latest league table i believe:
1. Blackpool Scorpions 4 4 0 0 162 32 130 8
2. Golborne Parkside 4 3 0 1 80 46 34 6
3. Irlam Hornets 3 2 0 1 136 65 71 4
4. Rylands Sharks 4 2 0 2 80 82 -2 4
5. Albert Park 3 2 0 1 58 82 -24 4
6. Widnes Moorfield 3 1 0 1 51 84 -33 4
7. Dalton 1 1 0 0 28 2 26 2
8. Blackbrook 2 1 0 1 34 32 2 2
9. Leigh East 4 1 0 3 34 50 -16 2
10. Higginshaw 2 1 0 1 36 60 -24 2
11. Eccles 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
12. Thatto Heath 1 0 0 1 0 18 -18 0
13. Langworthy Reds 3 0 0 3 38 102 -64 0
14. Widnes Tigers 4 0 0 4 28 130 -102 0
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| Fixtures for Saturday 20th October 2012
Dalton v Blackpool Scorpions - Not sure who is the home team. Can't find any details on the net.
Golborne Parkside v Eccles
Higginshaw v Blackbrook
Irlam Hornets v Widnes Tigers
Langworthy Reds v Thatto Heath
Leigh East v Widnes Moorfield
Rylands v Albert Park
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| Is the team playing our of Thatto playing as Thatto???
Might sound a strange question but the Thatto Chair has gone to great lengths to stress that the team playing in winter is just based at their ground and not an entry by the Thatto club.
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| Quote ="mmp"Is the team playing our of Thatto playing as Thatto???
Might sound a strange question but the Thatto Chair has gone to great lengths to stress that the team playing in winter is just based at their ground and not an entry by the Thatto club.'"
In answer to your question yes and i'm not sure where the second part of your comment originates from. The team is essentially a new team made up of new players and players from other summer based teams. Some have finished with their clubs and some have a couple of games left at their old clubs. As team Manager of the open age section I hav been left under no doubt that the Chair of the club from the very start said that if they are playing under the Thatto Heath Crusaders banner then they are expected to be run in the same manner as every other team at the club with a badged coach and first aider in place, paying subs in the same way as everyone else does (£10 per month by Standing Order or The full amount for the year up front). The fact that the NWCL are not recognising the Primary/Secondary registration system has hindered registrations slightly (and i'm led to believe that this system is in the process of being scraped).
Following a very stressful day for the Club Secretary this week running around sorting out transfers in time we're looking good to go for the game at Langworthy this afternoon.
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