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| We have just signed Brad Takairangi on a 2 year deal.A cracking signing imo.
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| Really happy with that.
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| Cracking signing IMO. Taking shape now Rovers!
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| Quote ="des lawson"We have just signed Brad Takairangi on a 2 year deal.A cracking signing imo.'"
Yes a big unit, 6ft 4 inches and 17 stone. He looked good in the NRL from what I saw of him and should do really well in super league.
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| As mentioned on the other thread, your best signing, experienced, right age and has a good fitness record.
A bit of pressure on Rovers for next season, experienced coach and some big signings, so big season for Smith as he has under achieved so far, got to be looking nearer the top than bottom with the money spent on players.
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| Quote ="Dave K."As mentioned on the other thread, your best signing, experienced, right age and has a good fitness record.
A bit of pressure on Rovers for next season, experienced coach and some big signings, so big season for Smith as he has under achieved so far, got to be looking nearer the top than bottom with the money spent on players.'"
What pressure Dave? I would say all teams are under pressure Not just Hull KR.
You say an experienced coach has under achieved? ( The one a lot of you guy's said go and get lol at the back end of the season ) Any coach can only work with the players he has available?
Andy Last did a Cracking job for you guy's after taking over yet you have shoved him aside for an un known so I would suggest Hull FC have more pressure to try and compete with the top 4 as your owner insisted last season.
Kind Regards.
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| Quote ="Rubyred1"What pressure Dave? I would say all teams are under pressure Not just Hull KR.
You say an experienced coach has under achieved? ( The one a lot of you guy's said go and get lol at the back end of the season ) Any coach can only work with the players he has available?
Andy Last did a Cracking job for you guy's after taking over yet you have shoved him aside for an un known so I would suggest Hull FC have more pressure to try and compete with the top 4 as your owner insisted last season.
Kind Regards.'"
Yes all teams have pressure, but next year season should be different, cabt be happy with avoiding relegation have to be aiming for 6th-8th with your squad and coach.
The odd Hull wanted smith, not many probably more wanted Kearney and Andt Last. Smith won 3 games last season, he should be winning more games than that, it wasnt just the defeats apart from a couple of games after the break in was the manner of defeats. He can blame the squad and injuries but he put the majority of the squad together he got recruitment wrong in 2019. Budget wise you should not have finished bottom.
I like last, but it's the wrong time for him, too like Radford, needs to move to another club.
We finished 4th last year by the official rules I think and we should be aiming for similar, alot depends on our two signings
Fair play coming to challenge, unlike Angry Andy and the other one who sit in the safety of the private forum and slag off Hull and me personally without having the guts to come on here and be challenged or have an open debate.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Yes all teams have pressure, but next year season should be different, cabt be happy with avoiding relegation have to be aiming for 6th-8th with your squad and coach.
The odd Hull wanted smith, not many probably more wanted Kearney and Andt Last. Smith won 3 games last season, he should be winning more games than that, it wasnt just the defeats apart from a couple of games after the break in was the manner of defeats. He can blame the squad and injuries but he put the majority of the squad together he got recruitment wrong in 2019. Budget wise you should not have finished bottom.
I like last, but it's the wrong time for him, too like Radford, needs to move to another club.
We finished 4th last year by the official rules I think and we should be aiming for similar, alot depends on our two signings
Fair play coming to challenge, unlike Angry Andy and the other one who sit in the safety of the [uprivate forum[/u and slag off Hull and me personally without having the guts to come on here and be challenged or have an open debate.'"
What's this "private forum" Dave? Can I join it please, I feel like I'm missing out on something and it hurts me
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| Quote ="Rover52"What's this "private forum" Dave? Can I join it please, I feel like I'm missing out on something and it hurts me'"
You should join now, always a positive place in the off season, then SL starts.....
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| Still banned, one assumes...
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| Dave where exactly did Andy slag you off? I have searched and can’t find anything relating to you were the offending posts some time ago?
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| Quote ="Sandro II Terrorista"Still banned, one assumes...'"
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| Quote ="Dave K."As mentioned on the other thread, your best signing, experienced, right age and has a good fitness record.
A bit of pressure on Rovers for next season, experienced coach and some big signings, so big season for Smith as he has under achieved so far, got to be looking nearer the top than bottom with the money spent on players.'"
Money spent on players?
Rovers will be well below the cap and one of the lowest spending teams. Money has been spent wisely though and I expect us to improve.
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Money spent on players?
Rovers will be well below the cap and one of the lowest spending teams. Money has been spent wisely though and I expect us to improve.'" wouldnt take his spin to seriously
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| Quote ="His Bobness"Money spent on players?
Rovers will be well below the cap and one of the lowest spending teams. Money has been spent wisely though and I expect us to improve.'"
You will have spent more on players, look at your out goings and players coming in.
I said you should aiming for at least 8th
You will be spending more than Wakey, Leigh, Salford and about the same as Cas, which places you about 8th.
You have finished 11th, so 8th/9th would be an improvement, anything less would be a disappointment.
Not sure what I said was wrong?
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| Ok despite advice to the contrary I'll presume Dave K. is here with genuine opinions rather than to cause mischief.
5 big earners were on the payroll in 2020 who will not be in 2021. Mose Masoe (removed from the cap but still paid in full), Mitch Garbutt, Weller Hauraki, Robbie Mulhern, Nathaniel Peteru..
We've signed (by our standards) 4 big earners, Ryan Hall, Albert Vete, Korbin Sims and Brad Takairangi.. So there's a decent saving there with 4 big earners instead of 5.
Our other 2 signings, Mustapha and Johnson are low earners and we've lost Harvey Livett, Dan Murray, Kyle Trout, Ryan Brierley, Jamie Ellis, Matty Gee, Will Oakes and Adam Rooks.
Clearly Rovers will be spending less than in 2020 and we were already below the cap but IMO spending more wisely. Paul Lakin has set a modest target of simply improving year on year I think we have a good chance of achieving that.
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| Quote ="Dave K."You will have spent more on players, look at your out goings and players coming in.
I said you should aiming for at least 8th
You will be spending more than Wakey, Leigh, Salford and about the same as Cas, which places you about 8th.
You have finished 11th, so 8th/9th would be an improvement, anything less would be a disappointment.
Not sure what I said was wrong?'"
David, I'm afraid you have looked at the quality we have brought in and thought we have d done well...
It's a simple case of Mathematics.
Garbut- well over paid.
Masoe- Very unfortunately had his career stopped however was on very good salary.
Mulhern- was on wages you pay an international
Plus the other 8 or so that have left us will equal a total net of Zero. We are nowhere near the cap (which must scare many teams) as we have recruited wisely and haven't paid an off half who has played 10 games in 20 years 190k a season.
You will be a few quid short in the cap when Cator is Man of Steel/Lance Todd and Harry Sunderland winner.
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| It's not a simple case of mathematics unless you know the exact numbers, which none of you do including me, so it's opinion based
Of the 5 big earners one wasnt on the cap and another played half a season.
In my opinion you will be spending more this year than last, the likes of Sims, Hall and BT will on miles more than Garbutt erc as they are established NRL players not reserve NRL players like the ones named. You have rightly gone for quality over quantity, but you have paid for it adding more pressure on Smith, who cant afford to fail this year.
Merry Christmas to you all.
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| Quote ="Dave K."It's not a simple case of mathematics unless you know the exact numbers, which none of you do including me, so it's opinion based
Of the 5 big earners one wasnt on the cap and another played half a season.
In my opinion you will be spending more this year than last, the likes of Sims, Hall and BT will on miles more than Garbutt erc as they are established NRL players not reserve NRL players like the ones named. You have rightly gone for quality over quantity, but you have paid for it adding more pressure on Smith, who cant afford to fail this year.
Merry Christmas to you all.'"
Merry Christmas to you too, however Hull KR will be under the cap by at least 150k.Now Hudgell has pulled back where is the money coming from?
Like you I am very surprised about the quality we have brought in (compared to 2020 signings)
One suggestion could be that the 4 oversees plus Halls contracts could be backloaded, so year 1's salary is relatively small, but years 2 and 3 could be significantly more. This could be due to the fact we have secured some major investment. I hope in wrong on this as it could be dangerous if investment isn't sought. AKA Salford 2014.
Anyways, Josh Jones- Happy or not what's your take?
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| Quote ="Rover52"Merry Christmas to you too, however Hull KR will be under the cap by at least 150k.Now Hudgell has pulled back where is the money coming from?
Like you I am very surprised about the quality we have brought in (compared to 2020 signings)
One suggestion could be that the 4 oversees plus Halls contracts could be backloaded, so year 1's salary is relatively small, but years 2 and 3 could be significantly more. This could be due to the fact we have secured some major investment. I hope in wrong on this as it could be dangerous if investment isn't sought. AKA Salford 2014.
Anyways, Josh Jones- Happy or not what's your take?'"
Disappointed, more in Jones, good player, but we didnt see it from him.Happy with the quality of our backrow, but lacks depth.
Gives Hull alot of cap to play with, not sure we will use it, think both Hull clubs will e a bit under the cap, sign of the times, dont blame either clubs for not spending the max.
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| The best off season signing IMO closely followed by Elijah Taylor joining Salford, a big experienced lad who's versatile enough to cover multiple positions.
Looking forward to seeing him play.
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| Great signing. A really impressive recruitment policy, a great emphasis on youth and some really talented coaches. I'm looking forward to seeing how you go next season but I reckon in 3 or 4 seasons with the structures you have in place you'll be flying. Happy New Year, I hope you do well except when you play us!
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| Quote ="Dave K."You will have spent more on players, look at your out goings and players coming in.
I said you should aiming for at least 8th
You will be spending more than Wakey, Leigh, Salford and about the same as Cas, which places you about 8th.
You have finished 11th, so 8th/9th would be an improvement, anything less would be a disappointment.
Not sure what I said was wrong?'"
All of it to be fair....
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"All of it to be fair....'"
Of course, great response, you think you are spending less than Leigh, Wakey and Salford. So the lowest spending team to SL
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| Hi Guys, off topic sorry but just saw your squad numbers for next year. Can i ask why you have retired the no.6 Jersey or is this a typo on the post maybe?
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