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| The only word to sum up that 2nd half. As soon as they scored the heads went down and we rolled over. Serious questions about the coach for me, he sets the agenda and listening to him coming home I thought we were back in 2013 with the excuses. I was only waiting for “team full of internationals” for my Sandercock bingo card to be complete.
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| Many failed coaches, one chairman... Yep, keep blaming the coaches cause that seems to be the common denominator.
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| Quote ="A Adler"Many failed coaches, one chairman... Yep, keep blaming the coaches cause that seems to be the common denominator.'"
The Chairman owns the club. I’m sure he would gladly step aside if anyone wants to pump in the six figure shortfall every season.
Unfortunately the list of would be SL club owners is shorter than your cock.
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| Quote ="SirStan"The Chairman owns the club. I’m sure he would gladly step aside if anyone wants to pump in the six figure shortfall every season.
Unfortunately the list of would be SL club owners is shorter than your cock.'"
Very mature and intelligent response. You know Hull FC used to lose money every year but now we turn a profit. That’s how a chairman who knows what he’s doing runs a rugby club.
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| Quote ="A Adler"Very mature and intelligent response. You know Hull FC used to lose money every year but now we turn a profit. That’s how a chairman who knows what he’s doing runs a rugby club.'"
Back to back challenge cup wins will do that I think there is only Leeds who make a profit consistently nobody else does
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Quote ="fun time frankie"Back to back challenge cup wins will do that I think there is only Leeds who make a profit consistently nobody else does'"
Break even regardless of trophy success according to our astute Chairman.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... am-1399630
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Quote ="fun time frankie"Back to back challenge cup wins will do that I think there is only Leeds who make a profit consistently nobody else does'"
Break even regardless of trophy success according to our astute Chairman.
https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... am-1399630
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Expect to break even not definitely breaking even in the result of not winning anything there's a difference
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Expect to break even not definitely breaking even in the result of not winning anything there's a difference
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| I’m not prepared to turn another Rovers thread into a cross city dick measuring contest, that would be the immature thing to do.
Spineless performance that has absolutely nowt to do with our Chairman, or indeed any other clubs chairmen.
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| Quote ="A Adler"Many failed coaches, one chairman... Yep, keep blaming the coaches cause that seems to be the common denominator.'"
You were chucking mud at Hudgell back when we were enjoying better times under Morgan though. Here’s one from 2009...
Quote ="A Adler"Go on Grudgell,spend more money you have not got. Dig yourself deeper on that hole. RIP rovers, the end is nigh. Bankrupt in two years, you watch.'"
‘in’ btw.
This, of course, was back when Kath Hetherington and James Rule were still en vogue among Hull fans.
Kudos for singing the same song so consistently. However, I think we have to consider your motivations when evaluating your analysis.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"You were chucking mud at Hudgell back when we were enjoying better times under Morgan though. Here’s one from 2009...
‘in’ btw.
This, of course, was back when Kath Hetherington and James Rule were still en vogue among Hull fans.
Kudos for singing the same song so consistently. However, I think we have to consider your motivations when evaluating your analysis.'"
Typical red and white, talking about the past because the present and future look so bleak. Forever in the shadow of your mighty neighbours!
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| Chester got sack because results and fans demanded it ,Sheens has done no better he brought in Lee ,Tickle ,Walne and other gash players but because of his past its ok ..Rovers like living in past it
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| Quote ="Wizard crane"Chester got sack because results and fans demanded it ,Sheens has done no better he brought in Lee ,Tickle ,Walne and other gash players but because of his past its ok ..Rovers like living in past it'"
Pot and kettle. This is a Hull thing this inability to admit you were wrong. Hull key Kear go when they shouldn’t have because of a dip so did KR with Chester both replaced with no better at the time.
It’s impossible to know if either would have turned it round but it’s equally as impossible to say they wouldn’t especially in Keats case. What is certain is both went on to do far better than those who replaced them long term.
All clubs do it but both sets of Hull fans seem intent on deriding these two in particular rather than admit they may have been hasty.
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| Quote ="vastman"Pot and kettle. This is a Hull thing this inability to admit you were wrong.'"
I presume therefore you are from Hull? How did you end up supporting wakefield?
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| Quote ="vastman"
All clubs do it but both sets of Hull fans seem intent on deriding these two in particular rather than admit they may have been hasty.'"
I admire the way Chester handled his departure, and I’m glad he seems to learned from mistakes made at Rovers and enjoyed relative success at Wakefield. However, the mess he made (along with others) in 2016 was beyond his ability to fix. It just wasn’t realistic to expect him to do a job in the face of the ongoing anger and frustration he’d have faced.
At least Webster was given space by fans because it wasn’t his mess. Not that it helped, ultimately. Sheens got us promoted again, and our travails now seem more a natural consequence of our situation than the clusterboobery of 2016.
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"Back to back challenge cup wins will do that I think there is only Leeds who make a profit consistently nobody else does'"
I think you will find Wakefield are now a very well run club under Michael Carter, he is no sugar daddy but runs a tight ship living in its means. Its a good business model and slowly the club is building. Just the facity farce with the LA and proposed developers holding the club from moving to the next level!
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| I can't argue with the general theme of this thread but as fans we overreact to big defeats and also wins. Salford away and yesterday it was the manner of it rather than the score for me.But Salford Hudds Cats Widnes have also took a fair few batterings even Cas and Wakey have had blips. Im sick of hearing of injuries but they can't be ignored plus the 2 Leeds games Cats away and derby were very winnable if we had the brains .We also seem to be a bit unfortunate in that we play teams either in form or getting star players back? Lots of it's and buts but we need results on pitch to get everyone on same page .Even at full strength top 8 would be decent top 6 was always unattainable? We need to win our home games firstly.It covers a lot of cracks like yeamsterdays games. Salford and Wid have turned over big teams at home.that is the difference,we havent
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"You were chucking mud at Hudgell back when we were enjoying better times under Morgan though. Here’s one from 2009...
‘in’ btw.
This, of course, was back when Kath Hetherington and James Rule were still en vogue among Hull fans.
Kudos for singing the same song so consistently. However, I think we have to consider your motivations when evaluating your analysis.'"
As much as you may dislike Hull .F.C. no need to stick the knife in. If you had mentioned Agar I would have sent the Boys round to have a word with you.
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| Quote ="SirStan"I’m not prepared to turn another Rovers thread into a cross city dick measuring contest, that would be the immature thing to do.
Spineless performance that has absolutely nowt to do with our Chairman, or indeed any other clubs chairmen.'"
Funny thing is despite the strange team selections we probably shaded the first half (Lee doesn't fall of the tackle for there 3rd try we could have at least been level at ht ). But the way we started the 2nd left us way to much to do, and we just didn't look bothered. Wakefield didn't have to do a lot for there tries or defence, but most were long range and could have been stopped. And the only time we spread the ball Moss scores a well finished try (he really should have started).
But they showed us what we need to do to improve, a couple of big forwards and pace, which we have neither which is why we're struggling.
This season was always about just trying to stay in this division. And then improving year on year. We are starting to do that by signing up our better young players. If we can stay up maybe we can attract the better players. And that needs to be players with pace and size. But we do need a big overhaul in my opinion,otherwise even if we stay up we'll be back in the same position next year.
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| I fail to understand why we had salter a centre on the wing,lee hooker at off half and moss a winger on the bench.Come on stan you told me moss isnt a off half,tell me salter is a winger and lee off half.
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Go back to the stone you crawled out of you prat
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| Quote ="luke ShipleyRed":2ptf1gjxQuote ="SirStan":2ptf1gjxI’m not prepared to turn another Rovers thread into a cross city dick measuring contest, that would be the immature thing to do.
Spineless performance that has absolutely nowt to do with our Chairman, or indeed any other clubs chairmen.'" :2ptf1gjx
Funny thing is despite the strange team selections we probably shaded the first half (Lee doesn't fall of the tackle for there 3rd try we could have at least been level at ht ). But the way we started the 2nd left us way to much to do, and we just didn't look bothered. Wakefield didn't have to do a lot for there tries or defence, but most were long range and could have been stopped. And the only time we spread the ball Moss scores a well finished try (he really should have started).
But they showed us what we need to do to improve, a couple of big forwards and pace, which we have neither which is why we're struggling.
This season was always about just trying to stay in this division. And then improving year on year. We are starting to do that by signing up our better young players. If we can stay up maybe we can attract the better players. And that needs to be players with pace and size. But we do need a big overhaul in my opinion,otherwise even if we stay up we'll be back in the same position next year.'"
Thought you looked a pretty decent outfit in parts. Agree with that end statement though. You need a David Fifita type prop and a prop that like England who will run it in all day and make some good yard gains without the flash. Add a winger like Johnstone or BJB and you wouldn’t be far off (we have MCB who is a quality winger who would be awesome signing for you guys who can’t get a game atm). We’d be mad to let MCB go to a rival league team but you get the idea.
i wouldn’t get too disheartened. You run Leeds close afterall and will pick up some more points down the road. As for gutless I just think they run out of steam and losing the possession battle and the collision in that 40-60 minute spell just took too much out of them.
Best of look for the rest of season.
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| The only aim this season is not to get relegated which I'm sure you won't, either through not losing the MPG or through them expanding SL. You have a poor squad scattered with a few half decent players but there is no real quality there to get you over the lines in tight games.
I'm sure crossland and hudgel are confident you won't go down hence they're not panicking and paying over the odds for the wrong type of player.
I don't think we're too far off another franchise type model for SL and I would think hudgel is confident you'll be in there so thinking longer term than your average fan is prepared to.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"The only aim this season is not to get relegated which I'm sure you won't, either through not losing the MPG or through them expanding SL. You have a poor squad scattered with a few half decent players but there is no real quality there to get you over the lines in tight games.
I'm sure crossland and hudgel are confident you won't go down hence they're not panicking and paying over the odds for the wrong type of player.
I don't think we're too far off another franchise type model for SL and I would think hudgel is confident you'll be in there so thinking longer term than your average fan is prepared to.
Back your team'"
Agree with the above think the format is heading towards franchising , still can't help but laugh like a drain at the Dobbins.
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| Quote ="billysbestmate"Agree with the above think the format is heading towards franchising , still can't help but laugh like a drain at the Dobbins.'"
I see they have let billy out of the nuthouse again lol
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